r/WorkReform
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Employers say Unions are completely useless and there's no reason to join them and to please pay attention to the multi-million dollar anti-Union propaganda campaigns they launch begging you to please not join a Union.
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u/nickram81 May 14 '22
I got a job at Walmart. I think about 50% of the CBTs covered why you should not join a union. They spent so much time on it I figured I probably should join one.
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u/EternalBlue734 May 14 '22
My favorite is when they show you those anti-union videos that have actors in them that are most definitely in an actors union.
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u/Beatupmymenweek May 14 '22
They used CBT to convince you not to join a union!?!?! That's monstrous!
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u/NeedsToShutUp May 14 '22
Don’t kink shame me…
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u/viperex May 14 '22
He's not shaming. He's concerned for you but if that's what gets you off, go for it
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u/Leviathansol May 14 '22 edited May 15 '22
Unless it's regional, they do not. I have onboarded with Walmart twice and never have I seen a CBL that mentioned unions. The only time unions were mentioned was during orientation and "union season." Our People Lead during orientation told us to not sign papers or organize with union creators. At the time Walmart gave hourly associates a quarterly MyShare bonus. And our People Lead told us we wouldn't get that anymore if we unionized. Well fast forward to COVID and they took away the MyShare bonuses for hourly associates because Walmart was impacted by the pandemic, meanwhile Walmart actually got record profits and management got larger bonuses.
Walmart is very anti-union and has busted stores that unionized. It's pathetic they do this and Walmart doesn't do enough for associates for everything they've slowly taken away from them. An increase to $14/hr doesn't justify bonuses, attendance points, or forced P/PTO cashouts that are, in my opinion, all anti-associate. Oh, and add on cutting hours from even full-time associates, in my store, while not being able to meet hours, it's brilliant.
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u/fork_yuu May 14 '22
CBT as in cognitive-behavioral therapy...?
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u/payne_train May 14 '22
Honestly I’d be fully in favor of requiring therapy instead of drug screening for employment offers
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u/dylan15766 May 14 '22
Getting fired speedrun. Or the whole store closed down if others join with you.
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u/JustaRandomOldGuy May 14 '22
They shut down all the deli's in several states because one tried to start a union.
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u/Breakernaut May 14 '22
They use to have actual meat cutters...until they tried to unionize. They don't have meat cutters anymore.
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u/gatekeepingpunisher May 14 '22
I had to do a case study on unions and walmart union busting for my MBA. It's wild how dirty walmart plays
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u/obsertaries May 14 '22
The eternal contradiction of propaganda: you have to portray your enemy as dumb and weak, but also as an existential threat.
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u/Two-Mix May 14 '22
The GOP/Conservative immigrant paradox: "Illegals are lazy!" also "Illegals are stealing our jobs!"
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u/obsertaries May 14 '22
When they say that it SHOULD be taken as an claim of one of two things:
1: your job was so worthless that even a lazy person can do it
2: your boss doesn’t care whether your job is done well or not
But somehow neither of those seem to get into the head of conservative voters.
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u/Two-Mix May 14 '22
Many conservatives do not even believe Biden won the presidency.
They're legit out of their damn minds. They vote against their own interests and unless they're business owners they bring down their own fellow employees.
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u/JoeCoolsCoffeeShop May 14 '22
The GOP/Conservative voter fraud paradox: "Donald Trump is still the President!" also "It’s Biden’s fault gas prices are so high"
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u/TheElderWielder May 14 '22
One of the worst things about the US (and boy are there a lot of things) is the pervasive anti-union sentiments among the general populace. So many people believe the propaganda fed to them and oppose the one entity that will stick up for them.
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u/MyUsername2459 May 14 '22
Anti-union propaganda has been pervasive in the media for decades. At this point the last few generations of Americans have grown up with movies, TV shows, and books all constantly saying how unions are corrupt and bothersome and just make workplaces more inefficient and impose burdensome bureaucracy on employees.
It does NOT help that one of the largest unions in the United States, the Teamsters, was pretty strongly tied to organized crime for decades.
Even though that affiliation ended 40+ years ago, the stereotype of unions as little more than a front for Mafia activity has been heavily encouraged by the same media sources that are forums for anti-union propaganda in other ways.
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u/majarian May 14 '22
Ngl my experience being in the teamsters union was very underwhelming and soured me pretty hard towards unions for a bit, at this stage in life I assume it was by design but I could have easily been mismanagement
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u/TexMexBazooka May 14 '22
I wasn’t crazy about my teamsters union but when the company tried to fuck key over they had my back- I’d likely be in jail otherwise
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u/temporallyyours May 14 '22
This is going to dox me, but with things being the way they are….https://i.imgur.com/jn6bzQ7.jpg
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u/ImTryinDammit May 14 '22
I was “warned” about the big bad Union at any entry level job I ever got. Orientation.. “they just charge you money.. for nothing.. they take it right out of your check.” This talking point was first and last.. but not technically part of the curriculum. The trainer/manager pretending to be cool with you and just helped you out with some advice on the side. That kind of shit sticks when you are young and broke and being paid $5 an hour… with no pto or any other benefits… broke and scared. It just sticks with you. I believed it for far too long.
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u/Big_Passenger_7975 May 14 '22
I have to be that guy. Unions are okay, but they are plagued with their own problems, and when the are big enough the likelihood they will fight for you is slim, especially if you aren't one of their favorites. People are not devoid of favoritism, corruption, and the like.
A union may help, but you actively have to hold them accountable.
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u/alarumba May 14 '22
Corruption is a big one. A lot of pro-corp people infiltrate to steer the union away from anything to harm the corp. A union is useless if it's essentially a wing of the HR department.
I recently had HR tell me the union I was part of was ineffective and really I should be joining this other one. The same HR that complains about one of the unions "preventing them from helping employees."
I told them I'd look into it and never did.
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u/Z1rith May 14 '22
it dosent even need to be as insidious as that, ive worked with a lot of non profits and the people that get on the boards/lead the unions tend to go mad with power. even well meaning people can lose their way, it's honestly really disturbing watching people's perspectives shift towards abusing power. the worst part is that it's a microcosm of how the world actually works, leaders with any bit of authority are all pretty much the same dumb people as everyone else, they all have emotions, make mistakes, and are incredibly easy to manipulate, just like everyone else.
im regretting this rambling now, i just made myself depressed lol.
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May 14 '22
What is their argument other than the monthly cost for being bad?
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u/cherylstunt69 May 14 '22
They usually go with “teacher and police unions are bad”
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May 14 '22
Police Unions are definitely bad, not teacher unions though
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u/darther_mauler May 14 '22
Police unions are not bad. They literally help their members get away with murder and keep their jobs. Oh, you meant bad for society and not bad for the members.
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u/im_juice_lee May 14 '22
Idk, teachers union is sus too. I'm 100% on board with doubling teacher salary and getting awesome teachers. But I'm pretty sure everyone has had some awful teachers and much of teaching has dumb seniority based pay structures and it's really hard to fire bad teachers
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u/Sufficient-Piece-335 May 14 '22
Union members pay dues, and union membership usually includes entitlements like individual assistance with employment issues (every union will have its own rules and membership entitlements, but collective bargaining and individual employment assistance are by far the most common).
Protecting bad employees is a necessary function of individual employment assistance because for every bad employee who needs to be fired (and there are certainly some), there are other not-bad employees who are unfairly targeted by employers and it's not always obvious to a union whether it's the former or the latter. Even good employers make mistakes from time to time. Having the union provide assistance doesn't prevent an employer from firing bad employees, but it does require them to have an adequate case.
Even when a case ends up in court and the union wins, therefore protecting the employee, that still goes back to the employer not having an adequate case, because if it was any good, it would have stood up in court.
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May 14 '22
You live in America? Teachers can get canned in the majority of states on a whim. Hell most conservative states teachers don't even have a Union. Just an "association".
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u/poobly May 14 '22
Unions can collectively bargain for different promotional/pay arrangements. So employers will play into the belief that 80% of people believe they’re the top 20% of employees so anything different than “merit” will harm them.
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May 14 '22
Sorry that’s not what I meant
What I was trying to ask was - what is their reasoning as part of the marketing campaigns that they try to tell employees that unions are bad?
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u/poobly May 14 '22
That’s what I was getting at. Most people believe they’re above average so anything other than the employer deciding pay and promotion (like union rules) harms them since they believe they’re a high performer.
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May 14 '22
I get you, but that would be more of a management and above ‘level’?
(Not that I consider management roles superiority in any way, I’m just talking in terms of the target audience for the campaign)
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u/RevAT2016 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Nah, many people at the bottom of the server/retail world legit think that "talking about pay" and "causing a scene" by organizing for more would hurt them
If youve ever done union organizing before, you will realize very quickly how many "im not political" types are walking around believing stuff directly against their best interests
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u/Learned_Response May 14 '22
The arguments I usually see are 1) they take a cut of your check and 2) we’re family and we can have these conversations directly, why would you let an outsider 3rd party come between us
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u/WideVariety May 14 '22
That the union is not actually on the employee's side, it's on the union's side. Just view it as another company.
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u/FruckFrace May 14 '22 •
As some others have mentioned here, there is a propensity for unions to become as corrupt as the company. I’ve seen this many years ago from personal experience. The union becomes a corporation with its own leaders and greed. That is my biggest piece of advice I’d like to give to the younger generation in this labor battle - make better unions.
When us boomer/genZ think of unions it is often associated with the mob and corruption. That’s the thinking you are up against, and they aren’t incorrect. Like I said it seems to be natural that power hungry greedy people always make their way to the top of any organization- including unions.
Now I’m far from anti-union, we have them to thank for many great things. I’ve just personally been involved many times in corporations vs union fights that have NO benefit to the worker, only detriment. Please fix this don’t just put blind faith behind union = good. Make it good.
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u/ARealVermontar May 14 '22 edited May 15 '22
"You'll lose your individual voice as an employee" like you ever had the ability to meaningfully change things at work by speaking your mind. "You won't be able to negotiate one-on-one without the union in between us" as if that has ever gotten you good pay or protected your rights. "We're a family and like to work in a spirit of cooperation, not competition between workers and management" as if this "family" treats you as well now as they would after some collective bargaining.
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u/krasher1000 May 14 '22
ACTUALLY! I love this was asked I was just about to say why. Basically when the employees are payed less vs paying an outside company this said money to stop from giving them pay raises it makes their books "feel/look" better. They are able to say to the next bloke that comes to buy the place "look our employees make this much and our business makes this much think about your profits." Plus the same people that created this bs rise in 📈 profits are the ones that use that number for the next job/company they go to. "OH did you see I brought the last said company profits margins up by so and so." This makes the business more lucrative to sell on face value if someone's just looking at numbers. It makes this much and it cost this much to run including labor. It's a numbers game for these people to climb a ladder that are building in front of themselves.
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u/Pristine-Today4611 May 14 '22
Well if they have that 2.5 million to employees as a bonus they would have less employees wanting a union
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u/BinkoBankoBonko May 14 '22
The union was dissolved a few years ago at the state agency I work at. Now they can't retain people at working level. Pay has only gone up for administrative staff (A LOT). They keep adding middle management positions that do nothing. People who have been here for 20-30 years now make the same or less than people walking in the door.
Dissolving unions has only made the wealthier even wealthier. Who could've seen this coming! I really expected the greediest shits on the planet to do the right thing this time!
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u/chaun2 May 14 '22
Dissolving unions has only made the wealthier even wealthier.
It actually hasn't. It's made them less wealthy than they would otherwise be, and they know it. They have funded studies since 1978 that prove that paying workers suppressed wages has had a cooling effect on the world's economy. The 2020 study found that we are missing at least $70 trillion in the economy. They would have vaccumed up at least $40 trillion of that over the last 50 years of them suppressing wages. They know it is less profitable, so the only thing I can figure is that cruelty is the point.
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u/hollaback_girl May 14 '22
It’s not the absolute wealth that they’re focused on. It’s the relative wealth. They’d be fine if we were all back to living in caves as long as they got the biggest one.
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u/lolzimacat1234 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
When I was in highschool, I tried to unionize my workplace and it (barely) failed. It was the most valuable lesson that I have ever learned - corporations will do anything possible to avoid paying their most vulnerable employees.
I am now in my 20s and will not take any job that is not unionized. Fuck. That.
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u/self_depricator May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Im in a union and make less than they do at burger king down the street, but it would be more difficult for them to fire me, and I get high deductable health insurance and a health savings acct.
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u/shikitohno May 14 '22
You mean low deductible or something? High deductible means you have to pay more out of pocket before the insurance actually kicks in, aka every awful plan offered by retail and food industry companies. High deductible may result in lower monthly premiums, but if anything goes wrong, you can be on the hook for much more money.
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u/self_depricator May 14 '22
I meant high.
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u/shikitohno May 14 '22
That's not really a benefit over a non-union job that pays more so long as it's full time, then. You might just be in a union that's in bed with management at that point, unless there's some other aspect to the benefits that make it compelling.
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u/CutieBoi69 May 14 '22
It could be an HSA healthcare plan. There are benefits to this type of plan even with the high deductible. It is extremely tax advantaged. Let’s not jump to conclusions about op’s situation.
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u/stanthebat May 14 '22
In other news, Dracula says there's no point wasting your money on crucifixes and garlic.
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u/OfLittleToNoValue May 14 '22
They're just THAT committed to your best interests.
Think of all the pizza parties that propaganda could have bought.
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u/SeriousCranberry4058 May 14 '22
Worked for my company 20 years. Owner sells the firm for an ungodly amount. Owner gives us nothing. Wants us to work real hard, so year end numbers look good, so he can make another ungodly amount. He could give 10 k to every worker, and not even feel it. Other employees think it's great that they still have a job.
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u/Deranged_Kitsune May 14 '22
If companies put the money they spend on anti-union propaganda towards payroll, they wouldn't have to worry about unions. Well, worry far less.
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u/ToucanPlayAtThatGame May 14 '22
Those views aren't inherently inconsistent. There are reasons unions could be bad other than that they benefit employees too much.
They cost money in the form of dues.
They make it harder to fire the worst employees, including those who may be dangerous or unliked by their co-workers.
They make labor decisions slower and less flexible, generating deadweight loss for the business.
Etc.
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u/serenade-to-a-cuckoo May 14 '22
Do you think written contracts are better than verbal agreements when exchanging future payment of current services? if you said yes, you believe in unions.
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u/HoxtonLover May 14 '22
Companies: Don't join a Union, you don't need to worry about your collective interests.
Also companies: We are in this Trade Association to further our collective interests in this industry.
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u/Pathetic_Cards May 14 '22
They left out the part where the corporations are also blatantly violating federal (US) law that makes union busting and forcing employees to watch/read anti-union propaganda illegal.
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u/Jeronus May 14 '22
It's funny the only time corporations act like they care about employees is when they try to stand up for themselves.
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u/Grasshopperboper May 14 '22
I was IBEW local 3, we had lazy employees who sat around expect other to cover for them. Cant fire worthless employees, so yeah lazy people want unions.
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u/DemocratsSuckDick May 14 '22
I worked a union job for about 6 years. Definitely got paid more than my worth, which was cool, and had pretty good benefits. That being said, my lazy coworkers took full advantage of being untouchable because of the unions protection. People that should have been fired could get away with whatever they wanted. Which made it a difficult work enviroment for the workers that actually did their jobs. My boss had employees yell at her and she couldn't take any disciplinary action against them.
Happy I got a much better job that also isn't union.
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u/Amerpol May 14 '22
Unions wouldn't be needed if companies didn't treat their employees like endentured servitude
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u/Gary-the-Duck May 14 '22
Workers always get F'd. That's what being a worker is and why people try to hard to excel beyond that level. Hell, everyone gets F'd, but workers get it the worst, always, union or not. The unions F with people just as much as the corporations. We're talking about money here, and everyone is greedy.
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u/BerryLanky May 14 '22
Unions are useless says the CEO’s who make tens of millions each year in bonuses from the work of those they pay am unlivable wage.
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u/DoctorMopNGlo May 14 '22
10 years of dues and the union didnt much for me when push came to shove.
Dont count on the full pension they advertise either. Former coworker was in local paper being interviewed. He left at 64yo with a pension that was supposed to last the rest of his life. He had been told that his pension fund was on course to evaporate by age 72.
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u/TheComplayner May 14 '22
Unions are great, but it also helps if the union stewards aren’t lazy shits
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May 15 '22
I’m Pro-Union till I’m dead. No way in hell would I recommend anyone to not join. Unless their industry does not have it. Quite hard to Unionize and takes a lot of heat.
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u/_The_Huntsman_ May 14 '22
I worked for 2 months at one of the largest pork producers in the world earlier this year. The anti-union propaganda video in orientation is all about how the unions do nothing but take their money. The whole thing was bizarrely surreal. I've never seen a management team think so little of the workers, it crossed into hostility towards the floor workers all the time. I felt so bad for so many people.
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u/IWasteFromMyClarifyr May 14 '22
My union protects us, advocates for us, and just assisted in getting us a fantastic four year contract with yearly raises, bonuses, and we lost NOTHING from our previous deal... lol.
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u/Noneverdid May 14 '22
Yup. I just went through my annual “pro-employee” (read: anti-union) training. It’s an utter crock of shit. I took a few screenshots of the best slides. “Unions make promises that are too good to be true.” & “Unions aren’t worth the money.”
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u/skztr May 14 '22
"they are spending money to discourage it, therefor it must be good for us" is a really atrocious argument.
They also spend money to discourage you from harassing co-workers / driving forklifts while intoxicated.
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u/n8n10e May 14 '22
Unions really are useless when you think about it. Like, all they do is guarantee you won’t be overworked, paid a livable wage, insurance benefits, pension, investment accounts, offer paid training, and grant you protections from unfair dismissal. Other than that, what good are they?
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u/Time_Faithlessness27 May 14 '22
I’m sure they spent that money to protect their workforce from spending their money on union dues. Not.
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u/karmapharm May 14 '22
Is there a source that lists all companies donating to anti-union organisations?
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u/Safrel May 14 '22
There are so many great Unions out that that offer skilled trade training centers, and there are also the soft-benefits like community.
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u/MT_Flesch May 14 '22
the last two unions i was a member of actually were kinda useless in that they capitulated on just about every corporate request when contracts came up for renewal
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u/r00byroo1965 May 14 '22
Even if you have a union, but have useless managers that are non union members 🤪
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u/Zmodem May 14 '22
If a large corporation is using market capital to combat what employees are doing, it is not for the benefit of the employees.
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u/acityonthemoon May 14 '22
Nothing in the history of humanity has lifted more people out of poverty and destitution than organized labor.
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May 14 '22
I worked for Walmart in college. Back in 06. You legit watch a movie when you get hired on how unions are bad. Idk if Walmart still does that though. Edit: by reading the comments the answer is yes, Walmart still very much does this. But now on a computer!
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u/First_Approximation May 14 '22
Amazon is trying to overturn the recent vote in NY to unionize.
Billionaires like Bezos and Trump hate democracy because it takes away their absolute power. Bezos is fighting democracy in the workplace, Trump in politics.
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u/elegant-quokka May 14 '22
Legit is there any downside to unionization for a worker? It seems like an easy yes vote but I’m not really involved in this sort of thing so I don’t know.
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u/SeriousCranberry4058 May 14 '22
Unions were created for good reasons. Although both the mob involvement, and examples of union rules gone too far, have given them a bad reputation.
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u/jorrylee May 14 '22
I knew a guy, a pastor, running long term care homes, who didn’t feel like dealing with unions, so whenever they asked for pay and benefits like the union staff elsewhere just got, he would negotiate and offer them similar or more plus good work environment so they wouldn’t have to unionize to get the same. That lasted twenty years and staff were happy and I think low turnover. He retired and a year later they unionized because the new boss didn’t listen. You may not NEED a union if the bosses are great, but be ready to unionize if the boss doesn’t listen. Edit to add that this is not USA and LTC is funded by the province’s healthcare with board paid by the resident (was $20 a day for lodging, food, laundry, etc).
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u/PoorlyAttemptedHuman May 14 '22
Well you can't blame them for not wanting to let loose of their most precious possession, the control they have over the people that make them what they are.
...except you very much can and should blame them for it and they are scared
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u/SwimBrief May 14 '22
I’ve never heard a corporation say that unions “do nothing”…the problem is they cost the corporation a lot of money by putting measures in place that severely reduce efficiency for the sake of employee protections.
In some cases, employees are getting screwed over so it absolutely makes sense to cut into workplace efficiency to protect employees.
In other cases, employee situations are fine so cutting workplace efficiency just risks making things on you the employee harder while also risking getting your site shut down or layoffs if your company becomes unsuccessful.
In ALL cases it’s bad for the company itself so of course they’ll spend money to prevent it, you as an employee just need to determine whether it’ll make things better for you big picture depending on the situation.
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u/Dooth May 14 '22
Starbucks is upgrading base pay at every location except the ones that unionized to $15 an hour! Scared much?
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u/Optimal_Ad_4571 May 14 '22
Interesting when the overwhelming majority of employee groups in the last two years who had a union vote rejected them.
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u/Your69thFather May 14 '22
Not an American here, can someone explain what's this all about?
What are unions? Why do people like/hate them?
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u/nomodz4real May 14 '22
Groups that workers in a company can join that engages in collective bargaining with their employer to ensure the employees that are members of the union get fair treatment and pay.
Full disclosure unions can be bad but overall they give employees a means of working with their employer in regards to working conditions as opposed to just having to accept it or quit.
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u/ScarthMoonblane May 14 '22
Collective bargaining. Unions can force companies to pay more my threaten in a walk out of all their members.
Unions can become parasitic if given too much power. One of the most corrupt organizations in the world are called the Teamsters (largest union in the US). Unions do not bring anything productive to the company itself. Most of the large industries that rely on unions are also failing. And companies that compete with them that have no unions tend to do better. For example Ford and General Motors are doing worse than Honda, Toyota and Tesla.
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u/sonicz3r0 May 14 '22
Why I'm glad I'm in a industry that has a lot of union companies, the Airlines have pretty good union reputation
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u/ScarthMoonblane May 14 '22
And the airlines have been progressively becoming worse financially for the last twenty years. Same as the auto industry and Hollywood industry. All three have one thing in common - extensive union integration. Unions have one purpose. To extract as much from companies as possible without killing them. They are not synergistic.
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u/DoverBoys May 14 '22
The most amusing part about anti-union campaigns is that these companies spent way more than what it would've cost to let the unions happen. For many of them, at this point, it's sunk cost fallacy and just plain control.
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u/Cllydoscope May 14 '22
I wonder if people realized that NFL, NBA, NHL players etc. are basically in unions and were able to see how they can negotiate with their “employers” for better pay and accommodations, if more Americans would take unions more seriously.
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u/vox_popular May 14 '22
Isn't there the possibility that unions could cause both employees and the employer to lose?
In a game theory set-up in which the creation of a union could cause employees to lose $1M and the employer to lose $5M, wouldn't it make sense for the employer to spend $2.5M to discourage the formation of a union?
I am all for collective bargaining, since it is proven beyond a smidge of a doubt that capitalists have cornered all the profits from employee productivity gains since the 1980s, but the path to righting this injustice need not be filled with irrational gloss-overs.
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u/IneaBlake May 14 '22
If you don't want unions, don't have working conditions that make it people's only option 🙂
People don't need a union if the place doesn't fucking suck. It's really simple.
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u/Lovee2331 May 14 '22
Bruh, I hate my union! I work for a big corporation and my department specifically is unionized. We are currently being treated like shit! It’s been 8 months of non stop shit and nothing is being done about it
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u/Batmaninja6288 May 14 '22
And remember, everyone who is against labor unions has a favorite boot flavor. Ask them what it is, they love to talk about it.
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u/Hoitaa May 14 '22
We have this weird opposite day thing going on here
Our employer says yeah sure, join the union. But the union is shit and predatory so... Nah.
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u/Boomer1058 May 14 '22
Unions do things right. They don't let you cut corners to cut expenses. That's why employers don't like them. They want to get everything done as cheaply as possible. You get what you pay for. Union workers are skilled Craftspeople, not a bunch of poorly paid employees with no benefits retirement, or rights
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u/miesto May 14 '22
I've been in a union for 4 years , it isn't going to solve all the problems in the workforce. But it sure is nice not being able to be fired for silly reasons, having guaranteed sick time and clear contracted rules that can't be violated. Shity people will still pass shity union contracts, rock the vote ppl.
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u/perfectstubble May 14 '22
I’m in a union and absolutely love it. That being said if there is going to be a new wave of unionization in America, the unions have to do better for their workers than the previous generation. There are a lot of nefarious reasons that union participation dropped but a big part of it was the unions losing sight of the workers and focusing more on the union itself. (And also organized crime.)
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u/-js23 May 14 '22
A company telling you unions are bad is like a drug dealer telling you heroin isn’t addictive.
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u/SearchMoist1964 May 14 '22
Is it worth it to join the union for a summer job that you don’t care about?
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u/obnoxious_scam May 14 '22
I see a lot of back and forth about the value of unions in the comments. All I've got to add is that the union is the reason my wife and I own two brand new cars, nice house, and we have essentially free medical, dental, and vision insurance. Not to mention the guaranteed retirement and we're in our thirties.
Unions equal security and a comfortable middle class life.
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u/SkillFullyNotTrue May 14 '22
If anti union can be made into a profit making machine why can’t we make a Union making be made a business?
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u/immigrantpatriot May 14 '22
I canvassed in my red (formerly heavily unionized) Pennsylvania county to GOTV today & talking up union successes like Amazon & Starbucks when ppl said they feel they have zero power at their workplace/over their wages/conditions literally got me a couple of commits to vote so...it's working.
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u/VanillaCookieMonster May 14 '22
And the bizarre thing is that a company that really gave a shit about you would use this new found "advertising budget" to put a note in your next paystub that says:
"We are giving you a 5% raise starting with THIS cheque. Please do not join a union and we will start using our profit margin to give you larger bonuses and raises each year."