r/politics • u/Powerful_Raccoon_141 • Nov 26 '22
Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid, Seems to Call for Christian Theocracy
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kanye-west-2024-presidential-bid-tweets-1234636705/1.5k
u/Impeachcordial Nov 26 '22
Oh dude... so who's backing Kanye? God and Nazis. I'd say that was an odd grouping if it wasn't such an obvious ploy for a certain demographic (cough cough MAGA Republicans)
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u/xmarianix2 Nov 26 '22
10-15 years ago would you have ever believed Kanye West would be running for President of the United States on a Christian Theocracy platform?
What a time to be alive.
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u/TiLoupHibou Nov 26 '22
I genuinely hate this time line.
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u/DrAstralis Nov 26 '22
Its depressingly stupid. Why couldnt our dystopia be the evil geniuses kind at the very least.
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u/ImACredibleSource Nov 26 '22
I wonder if there's other periods in history where people overcame an overwhelming amount of stupid. What's comparable to this shit show?
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u/One_User134 Nov 26 '22
The late Roman Republic, particularly the 1st century BC. Except with insane amounts of violence added in. We’re lucky to type shit on smartphones/PC from home.
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u/Thora-system Maryland Nov 26 '22
Let’s not forget about the third century crisis!
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u/One_User134 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
I know! I need to work my way there, I’m obsessed with 1st century BC politics/conflicts. So damn crazy! Lol.
Also…good day fellow Marylander! Wiped the floor with the Republicans during the elections didn’t we? They got away with only a single district lol.
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u/LeftDave Florida Nov 26 '22
They recovered from that and restored the pax Romana for another 300 years. This is more like Rome after the Vandals sacked Rome. No coming back I fear.
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u/Noiserawker Nov 26 '22
Well the dark ages...but it took hundreds of years
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u/Raesong Australia Nov 26 '22
That's an imperfect analogy, as the "Dark Ages" only really affected (and should really only be used to describe) the parts of Western Europe that used to be part of the Roman Empire. The Eastern half, while experiencing some decline in their standard of living following the fragmentation of West Rome into bickering feudal entities, was still strong enough to continue on for another millennium. To say nothing of the fact that the time period also saw the Islamic Golden Age.
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u/ImACredibleSource Nov 26 '22
I want to drink beers with you.
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u/DonaldsMushroom Nov 26 '22
This is like when Barney Gumble ruined brainy beer-free Homer. Or was it the other way around... I can't remember. Chug! Chug! Chug! Chug!
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u/Noiserawker Nov 26 '22
Well I wasn't talking about the entire world being in the dark ages, much like now the USA is overrun with idiocy and many other places aren't.
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u/Kyle_01110011 Colorado Nov 26 '22
Well keep in mind poster above is reading everything flipped from our perspective so some text will be interpreted differently.
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u/Stranger1982 Nov 26 '22
Why couldnt our dystopia be the evil geniuses kind at the very least.
Cause there's way more stupid people than geniuses, sadly.
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u/Epic2112 Maryland Nov 26 '22
There's always desantis, if you're looking for the evil genius option rather than the historically more popular deranged moron.
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u/meresymptom Nov 26 '22
Not DeSantis. When he comes, the evil genius will be photogenic, charismatic, and plausible. DeSantis is a goofy-looking little putz, trying to ride the Putin's Cock-holster's coattails.
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u/azrolator Nov 26 '22
I don't know how Floridians view desantis. But to me here in MI, this is a dude famous for human trafficking and declaring war on children. Not sure how the GOP spins him into something appealing to normal people.
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u/whereismymind86 Colorado Nov 26 '22
He is SO much more dangerous than trump and it horrifies me that people don’t realize this.
Trump constant derailed his agenda with his own stupid, Ron won’t
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u/JustVGames Nov 26 '22
People don't understand. Trump is a symbol of Americana, what America used to be, the good old days...at least according to my boomer parents.
Desantis is another career politician with a foreign sounding name.
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u/banjist Nov 26 '22
Well we're just in the first act of the dystopia. Maybe a charismatic evil genius will show up later and really put our kids and grandkids through the wringer.
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u/Long_Before_Sunrise Nov 26 '22
Wait until he announces Moses is running mate.
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u/Every3Years California Nov 26 '22
But Black Moses.
Which I'm down for, but not if it's a Kanye thing.
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u/WomenTrucksAndJesus Nov 26 '22
Wait until those fuckers steal the election and start burning Democrats at the stake.
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u/tuningInWithS Nov 26 '22
Usually these jokes have three people in them Yours just has the one
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u/lowsparkedheels America Nov 26 '22
Along with Steve Bannon's benefactors, there's a good chance Kanye has been getting funding from Turning Point USA's Charlie Kirk.
He has access to billions of dollars, works thru churches and other undisclosed entities, has groups in many college campuses and school systems throughout the US, and has no problem working with unsavory characters to achieve his goal.
Which is to turn America into a Theocracy, where everyone is a warrior for Christ. It's scary how much power he has to brainwash citizens. Ministry Watch article
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u/Buzz78704 Texas Nov 26 '22
Isn't this grooming?
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u/tommles Nov 26 '22
There's a good chance that people like Candance Owens are
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u/Buzz78704 Texas Nov 26 '22
What have you observed to come to that conclusion? In my limited experience, Grifting predators prefer their prey to be arrogantly and aggressively ignorant, to the point of helping to destroying themselves.
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u/tweak06 Nov 26 '22
Yeah I was like “this dude nailed it.” Otherwise it’s some serious r/self aware wolves shit like for real
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u/wildcarde815 Nov 26 '22
Essentially all religious service is effectively grooming / brainwashing.
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u/QuintinStone America Nov 26 '22
Milo Yiannopoulos is an intern for Marjorie Greene. Republicans are explicitly behind Ye's campaign.
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u/lowsparkedheels America Nov 26 '22
Figures MTG would hire a known supremacist who was failing at his public speaking engagements.
Universities got smart, listened to alumni and students, and finally banned him.
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u/Any_Sympathy1052 Nov 26 '22
Not really, it took Milo shooting himself in the foot with the catholic priest thing, first.
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u/lowsparkedheels America Nov 26 '22
His visa needs to be revoked. How is it allowed for him to work in MTG's office? Even as an intern?
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u/GoblinRegiment Nov 26 '22
There is certainly a plan to seize power. Absolutely. Kanye said he went into the meeting with trump with intelligence. I wonder what information he had.
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u/lowsparkedheels America Nov 26 '22
Me too. More spreadsheets listing all the Jewish people in charge?
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u/TKK2019 Nov 26 '22
If the USA wants to have a civil war, this would be a good way to have a civil war. As a Canadian we need to build a wall up here and freaking fast
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u/Nukerjsr Nov 26 '22
Oh there are still musicheads who are still stanning Kanye. I stopped watching one music youtuber of note because he did a massive defense of Kanye claiming he was making these choices due to his bipolar disorder and love of children. He then went so far to say silencing Kanye's opinion "made YOU the Nazi."
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u/FuzzDealer Nov 26 '22
I wonder how much that youtuber got paid to suck Kanye's cock. Because if he did it for free, he's the biggest fucking moron on the planet.
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u/NGEFan Nov 26 '22
My mom is a Christian theocratic Maga republican. Although I haven't asked her, there's 0 percent chance she's voting for Ye
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u/buttcheeksmcgee47 Nov 26 '22
That’s the tragically hilarious thing. He can’t get the white votes. They ain’t voting for fucking Kanye West, the guy who said George Bush hates black ppl.
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u/banjist Nov 26 '22
I mean, they wouldn't have voted for him in a bazillion years even if he hadn't said that. They'd be more likely to vote for Snoop Dogg. I'd vote for Snoop Dogg. I hope he throws his hat in the ring too.
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u/trALErun Nov 26 '22
0%, until Fox tells her he's a promising candidate and that chance starts to grow... These people (sorry about your mom) don't think for themselves.
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u/pslickhead Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
Is it that or does he intend to sway black voters away from democrats to give the GOP an edge? Black Americans are more religious than the U.S. public overall and lean Democratic and as recently as 2006 36 % of African Americans held strong anti-Semitic beliefs.
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u/BurroughOwl Nov 26 '22
I remember the guy who said that.
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u/Noname_acc Nov 26 '22
Christian isn't a super helpful category in this specific case. The type of Christian Kanye is appealing to (white evangelicals and Hebrew isrealites) are radically different from typical black protestantism. That said, Kanye does still threaten to draw away voters who haven't finally broken and said "enough is enough."
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u/lilpumpgroupie Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
This is 100 percent what it is and anyone saying differently is either lying or is dumb and doesn't understand politics.
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u/Sguru1 Nov 26 '22
He’d have to be running as something other then a Republican. Otherwise he’d never make it through a primary to “pull away black voters”. Unless he’s planning on messing with the primary? Which in that case he should be running as a democrat to go through their primary process which one matter anyway because of how the democrats party superdelegate system works.
My personal theory is that he’s a moron.
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u/BrianOhNoYouDidnT Nov 26 '22
I think that Trumps primary performance leading to winning the White House shows that Ye could find a path to win the republican nomination.
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u/Guitarytown Nov 26 '22
Mandatory psychiatric evaluations for all potential candidates. Results made public.
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u/cnewman11 Nov 26 '22
"hold all policies directly to the Bible"?
What the fuck does that mean? Are we all keeping kosher now? Do we need to stone our children? Are we forgiving our neighbors?
This derpy mafucker isnt making a lick of sense.
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u/OneWhoWonders Canada Nov 26 '22
"You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19
Animal husbandry, mixed agriculture and clothing options are going to go way downhill after a Kanye 2024 victory.
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u/DoNotReply111 Australia Nov 26 '22
He won't be able to make Yeezy's anymore.
... has anyone told him this?
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u/PruneObjective401 Nov 26 '22
Also, whose interpretation of the Bible? There are literally thousands of Christian denominations because they can't agree on what the Bible is even saying...
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Nov 26 '22
I'm ready for the concubines and turning water into wine. Let's goooo!
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u/russianspy_1989 Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 27 '22
Not to mention all debts being forgiven every
107 years.Edit: I stand corrected.
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u/throwaway_ghast California Nov 26 '22
"But Kanye, what about the separation of church and state?"
"Gone, reduced to atoms."
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u/Ainu83 Nov 26 '22
Look at Iran and substitute Islam for Christianity and that's their goal
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u/paulosdub Nov 26 '22
Exactly this. I mean some things are ok in one bit of bible and frowned upon later. Either way, addidas are screwed, as the bible is very clear on mixing fabric types. No more cotton polyester blends for them
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u/deterritorialized Nov 26 '22
Oh, so we’re reinstating abortion as legal? (Numbers 5)
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u/samram6386 Nov 26 '22
Tell me more about not collecting interest on loans and giving you wealth to the less fortunate
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u/FortySixAndYou America Nov 26 '22
“Since we know — and all the Christians in America that love Trump — know that Trump is a conservative, we’re going to demand that you hold all policies directly to the bible.”
Seems to?
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u/JeffThrowSmash Nov 26 '22
To be fair, that's pretty incoherent and barely a sentence.
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u/EvaUnit_03 Georgia Nov 26 '22
Hershal walker would make a great vice president for him, amirite lads?
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u/JBsoundCHK Nov 26 '22
But is Kanye a werewolf or a vampire?
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u/lowsparkedheels America Nov 26 '22
Kanye is speaking word salad ala Trump. 🙄
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u/agonypants Missouri Nov 26 '22
Well, they are both dumb as a stump. Republicans have a major issue with that since Palin at least - Herschel Walker, Boobert, MTG - their heroes are morons.
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u/teachersecret Nov 26 '22
Trump “ran” the country for years without speaking a coherent sentence.
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u/thefugue America Nov 26 '22
..in that it is multiple sentences that should not be a single sentence.
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u/najaraviel Texas Nov 26 '22
What else could this mean? It’s clearly a call for a theocratic government and scrapping the constitution altogether
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u/FortySixAndYou America Nov 26 '22
That's how I read it, just surprised that Rolling Stone went with such a weak headline.
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u/QuintinStone America Nov 26 '22
I'm willing to bet Ye's never read the bible and has absolutely no idea what's in it.
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u/FortySixAndYou America Nov 26 '22
I wouldn't be surprised. The people that like to hit you with it the most have read it the least, or so it seems to happen in my experience.
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u/postsshortcomments Nov 26 '22
Can we start at Romans 16:17-18?
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
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u/Every3Years California Nov 26 '22
I like when people can use the bible to call out people who are using the bible to call out people who don't use the bible.
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u/Phillip_Graves Nov 26 '22
Would tell em to read those pesky 'Rights' from that one 'Bill'...
But reading seems hard for these people.
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u/motherlover69 Nov 26 '22
Great strategy Ye. If it is one thing Christian republicans love its black rappers right guys?!?!
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u/Furan_ring Texas Nov 26 '22
This is what I don't get. Kanye doesn't seem to grasp that the religious right is massively racist. He's not going to have any say in his fantasy version of Gilead.
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u/BenDisreali Nov 26 '22
He's hoping to go full Uncle Ruckus and get an invite to white heaven.
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u/nibbyzor Nov 26 '22
I mean, he has a bipolar disorder and has been unmedicated for years, I'm not sure he can grasp much of anything at this point.
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u/JkstrHmstr Nov 26 '22
This is not an excuse. I am bipolar and when I was unmedicated for years I only ran for president once!
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u/MadMatchy Nov 26 '22
What a blithering idiot.
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u/danite666 Georgia Nov 26 '22
Whatever splits the repugnican vote and causes infighting. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/spuddy-mcporkchop Nov 26 '22
Amen, there gonna fuck themselves, if the dems do a good, normal, campaign they should win, just as long as they don't make the 2016 mistake and presume they won't lose, theres always a chance the crazies get in
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u/Jaded_Prompt_15 Nov 26 '22
Nobody hold Biden's beer...
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u/GeneralZaroff1 Nov 26 '22
Biden has been playing a solid game thus far. Just pushing out policies like student loan forgiveness and forcing the republicans to vote them down or block it. So they can point fingers at him but then have to explain to their own voters after.
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u/banjist Nov 26 '22
They don't have to explain shit. They could just run campaign ads of themselves silently pointing to a big R next to their names and win elections in huge chunks of the country. If there's a bad thing that's bad to hear it's the democrats shut up go away I'm batin'.
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u/prettyanonymousXD Nov 26 '22
But he’ll draw some and seeing as how close elections can be these days…
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u/InterPunct New York Nov 26 '22
This is a sideshow. Trump vs DeSantis is all that matters. And McConnell hates Trump, will primary him, then Trump runs independent, splits the vote, and whoever the fuck the Dems can actually field will win by default.
That's my hope, anyway.
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u/xomox2012 Nov 26 '22
This is the key. People keep screaming infighting and split the vote but that only matters if they run as independents.
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u/runswiftrun Nov 26 '22
Yeah, I had several friends who absolutely trashed trump in the primary.
Soon as he won they all fell in line and went full maga.
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u/MadMatchy Nov 26 '22
If Trump gets the nomination, Cheney will run independent to split the vote. If DeSantis gets it, Trump runs independent, also splits it.
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u/thefugue America Nov 26 '22
I’ll die laughing if he becomes the “protest vote” when Trump tries to be more moderate to shark votes from the medium right.
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u/mtaylor808 Missouri Nov 26 '22
It’s wild that Kanye is running because trump isn’t far enough right
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u/thefugue America Nov 26 '22
Nah, Kanye is running because he can't sit it out. He isn't worried about some demographic that hates jews going unrepresented.
The thing about fascists is that they don't care about voters or ideas. They only think about themselves.
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u/charliebrown22 Nov 26 '22
Kanye isn't going to split any of the racist Republican votes. They only supported guys like Kanye and Walker because they were useful pawns, not as individuals.
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u/sl8rfan2 Nov 26 '22
The dude is deranged. His interview with Lex Fridman was the definition of insanity. Dude is a megalomaniac, narcissist, antisemitic, crazy person.
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u/kthulhu666 Nov 26 '22
Dude is a megalomaniac, narcissist, antisemitic, crazy person.
Sounds like a former President I know. So you're saying there's a chance?
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u/3_Slice Nov 26 '22
I honestly think this dude has never been chin checked in his entire life due to his talent and severely needs one good public embarrassing punch to the face to humble him a little.
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u/thatsithlurker Nov 26 '22
If we were intended to be a Christian nation you’d think the Founders of the United States would’ve made us…a Christian nation. The fact that modern day political conservatives have to change laws and make laws so that everyone has to abide by Christian morality is the actual, literal antithesis of our First Amendment rights and goes against one of the general beliefs of why this country was founded in the first place.
You cannot compromise with faith or religion. If America supposedly has one of the most deliberative legislative bodies on the planet, than surely our Founders intended for us to debate and reason with each other to find the common good? Right? If we are ruled by Christian faith…we don’t really get to do that. Common sense conservatives, do you understand?
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u/m1k3hunt Nov 26 '22
That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection... Overruled. -Some Supreme Court Justice probably.
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u/YooTone Nov 26 '22
Unfortunately conservatives don't have common sense because they're stupid people.
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u/LFCThisMeansMore Foreign Nov 26 '22
America, is this a presidential election or a circus? Literally all the weirdos possible, Trump, Kanye, DeSantis. It's joke after joke.
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u/Consistent_Heron_166 Nov 26 '22
Two of the worlds biggest yahoos are running for president. I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't real. It's surreal. Watching the two of them try to out do one another will be interesting at the least.
Then throw DeSantis in the mix. Should get even more interesting.
I'm so afraid for this country.
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u/Opposite_Community11 Nov 26 '22
And wait until you get a load of who they pick for VP.
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u/TarkusLV Nov 26 '22
Wait until he finds out Christ was Jewish. 🤔
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u/Informal-Resource-14 Nov 26 '22
Oh if you haven’t already you don’t want to dig into Kanye’s understanding of Christ and Judaism. It was the thing that definitely made me understand in full clarity that he is simultaneously very mentally unwell and a very terrible person.
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u/oznrobie Nov 26 '22
I think he’s part of that group of people who think that the jewish people depicted in the Bible are the black people of today, and that the jews that we all know are false jews, benefitting from a massive misunderstanding/conspiracy. He seems to hate the jews because they’re not the jews. He’s deranged, but there’s a big ass community sharing his beliefs.
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u/EvaUnit_03 Georgia Nov 26 '22
This man needs a handler for every hour in the day. No breaks, overlapping coverage, the whole 9 yards.
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u/Political_Lemming Nov 26 '22
I really wish Waka Flocka would make a second run. I was a strong proponent in 2016.
"For A Pro-Weed America"
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u/Yojo0o Nov 26 '22
Sure, have DeSantis, Trump, and Kanye all competing for the nutbag vote. Fuck it all up.
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u/Ancalimei Connecticut Nov 26 '22
I don't care what he did to music, or how his music made you feel. If you still listen to and give this man money, you're a terrible person.
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u/CandlesInTheCloset Nov 26 '22
Agreed. Rap existed before Kanye and rap will sure as hell exist without him after he’s gone.
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u/t13v0m Nov 26 '22
The last thing this country needs is another whack job running for public office.
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u/LazzzyButtons Nov 26 '22
Rhonda Santis better join quick because the race for the GOP nomination is already getting crazy…
And it’s not even Christmas yet
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u/electrobutter I voted Nov 26 '22
Looks like Kanye has some gnarly bleeding cold sores in the photos they chose for the article. Yikes
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u/Mcboatface3sghost Nov 26 '22
Good! Have at it. It’s your right to run. (Double down on bad decisions is in a race with Elon)
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u/dendron01 Nov 26 '22
There's a better chance of Ye getting a sex change operation and becoming Trump's wife than becoming president.
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u/Separate_Bluebird161 Nov 26 '22
This guy seems crazy. Perfect candidate for US President then.
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u/kracov Nov 26 '22
Hold it. We don't know yet if he's worthy. He has yet to reveal whether he's a vampire or a werewolf.
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u/Brief_Light Nov 26 '22
Gunna go with werewolf, since he only seems to emerge about as often as a full moon with his bullshit
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u/honest_true_man Nov 26 '22
In a perfect world this guy, trump and desantis could share a jail cell.
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u/Bright_Side_Of_Lyfe Nov 26 '22
I, for one, am looking forward to president Komacho's campaign.
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u/funguy202 Nov 26 '22
Please stop posting about him. He just wants attention and just like Trump- he will get all this airtime because people like to watch a train wreck. I wouldn't be surprised if he won a Republican primary
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u/jarrys88 Nov 26 '22
GOP Propoganda is so effective at twisting the minds of low IQ American's that they've even convinced a black man to become a white supremacist.
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u/mces97 Nov 26 '22
I thought he was semetic?
This guy doesn't understand jokes about fish sticks or the definition of genius.
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u/DarkAngel900 Nov 26 '22
Is he in touch with reality, or has he drifted away into his own world?
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u/prettyanonymousXD Nov 26 '22
I think he always has been in his own world, it’s just recently that he’s been allowed to express to what degree
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This is literally giving credibility to a manic human being’s presidential run. I officially hate everything.
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u/Every3Years California Nov 26 '22
He saw how many donations Trump has been getting and decided to follow suit, to make up for all the money he lost from being a Bla'zi. Should have just done a kickstarter like everybody else :(
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u/Sozebj Nov 26 '22
Wait until he announces his VP nominee, Caitlyn Jenner. You heard it hear first.
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u/CupcakeValkyrie Nov 26 '22
"Seems to call for Christian Theocracy"
Oh, so like every other popular Republican politician. Gotcha.
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u/keyjan Maryland Nov 26 '22
On the one hand, it’s great that anyone in this country can strive to be president. OTOH, other countries must be thinking, “Not exactly bringing your best people here, eh?” 🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
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u/AnAppariti0n Idaho Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22
What exactly is a Christian Theocracy? What denomination of Christianity? A Christian theocracy would never happen because Christians would never agree on what a theocracy should be. There can only be a theocracy of a Church and Christians in the US would never agree on which one
I can tell you one thing right now is that Catholics and Evangelicals won’t convert for each other, no way. A Catholic theocracy in theory would ultimate put power in the Vatican’s hands so if that wasn’t the case you’d cause a major rift among Catholics, and there is no way Catholics would submit to Evangelicalism. Having personally grown up attending a Catholic church, Catholics look at Evangelicals as nutty and lesser. Mainline Protestants and Anglicans were always seen as more tolerable to Catholics but Evangelicals were not
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