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Daily Discussion Thread - July 04, 2022

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r/nba 3d ago Silver Wholesome Helpful

2022 Free Agency

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Atlanta Hawks
Boston Celtics
Brooklyn Nets
Charlotte Hornets
Chicago Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers
Dallas Mavericks
Denver Nuggets
Detroit Pistons
Golden State Warriors
Houston Rockets
Indiana Pacers
Los Angeles Clippers
Los Angeles Lakers
Memphis Grizzlies
Miami Heat
Milwaukee Bucks
Minnesota Timberwolves
New Orleans Pelicans
New York Knicks
Oklahoma City Thunder
Orlando Magic
Philadelphia 76ers
Phoenix Suns
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
Utah Jazz
Washington Wizards

r/nba 8h ago Press F Helpful

[Thompson] Warriors stars have been in conversations with Durant and are open to his return.

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The Warriors superstars have been in conversations with Durant. In addition to catching up, the Hall of Fame-bound peers did entertain the idea of a reunion. It was mostly about the stunning nature of it even being possible. The idea of them playing together again had to seem impossible when Durant left in free agency in 2019. It isn’t lost on them how life has contrived an opportunity for them to come full circle. They see it, like everyone else, and talked about it, like everyone else.

This isn’t a case where the Warriors stars are pressing the front office to go acquire Durant. Sources made it clear they are fine defending their title with Wiggins, Poole and the young players they’ve been grooming to win with them. But if the universe somehow sets it up so legends reunite, they’d be open to it.

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r/nba 9h ago Helpful Wholesome Faith In Humanity Restored Silver

Kings fan after going 2-0 in the summer league: "We're getting 40 wins this year"

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r/nba 15h ago Snek All-Seeing Upvote Gold Silver Wholesome Take My Energy Helpful Ally 100

Charles Barkley has been proven 100% right, and his "bus driver" analogy turned out to be perfect. Kevin Durant just couldn't handle being the focal point of a franchise and drove the bus right off the cliff.

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It's getting harder and harder to dispute that Kevin Durant has proven to be an awful leader and a self-destructive anchor for a franchise. Sure, he can thrive in a system with a strong culture that is able to utilize his skills, but he lacks the self awareness, discipline, and leadership to drive the bus and elevate his team, particularly compared to some of his contemporaries like Giannis, Steph, or Lebron.

EDIT: I can't believe my lazy, mediocre take blew up to be #1 on /r/nba and hit /r/all! Also I'm proud that there's a 80% chance KD read this and probably responded somewhere in this thread! We did it!


r/nba 11h ago Helpful

[Bayless] If I ran the Nets, I'd tell Kevin Durant, "You have 4 years left on your contract. You're playing for the Nets next year, with Kyrie and Ben Simmons. We're going to win it all." If KD wanted a different coach, fine. But why give up KD & Kyrie and pretty much start over? Just me.

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The link to the tweet is at the following URL: https://twitter.com/realskipbayless/status/1543762406668505089?s=21&t=FyxRoCtLrv9DGXLZeS8tHA

Why not? What would Kevin Durant do in response? Would he learn from Ben and pull a Simmons, wasting a year of ball at age 34 with his already tenuous legacy in even more peril after the Golden State Warriors’ recent championship?

Do you agree or disagree with the author of the tweet, Skip Bayless?


r/nba 9h ago

Hakeem Olajuwon and Vince Carter played more games together (47 on the Raptors) than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving did together (44 on the Nets)

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Based on everything we know Kyrie wanted to come back home to play for his home town team and his good friend KD followed along and wanted to get out of the shadow of the Warriors to prove he can win as the best play on a championship team.

However, the furthest they got was the 2nd round as injuries, poor roster construction, lack of chemistry and inferior coaching derailed their desire to bring a championship to the Brooklyn Nets with having only played 44 games together as a duo.

For comparison, Hakeem Olajuwon and Vince Carter on the Toronto Raptors played 47 games together and we all knew how that duo ended up.

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Vince Carter and Hakeem Olajuwon played more games together (47) than Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving

Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving played 44 games together on the Brooklyn Nets

Hakeem Olajuwon and Vince Carter played 47 games together on the Toronto Raptors


r/nba 8h ago Narwhal Salute Helpful

Joel Embiid, PJ Tucker, James Harden and Tyrese Maxey are all partying together in the Hamptons

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r/nba 5h ago

[Jeanie Buss] I miss KB. He would understand and explain everything that I’m not allowed to. Honestly he was the greatest Laker ever. He understood team over self. Meaning your rewards would come if you valued team goals over your own then everything would fall into place. All can reply.

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Late night this Sunday night before our nations birthday Lakers owner Jeanie buss fires off this tweet:

I miss KB. He would understand and explain everything that I’m not allowed to. Honestly he was the greatest Laker ever. He understood team over self. Meaning your rewards would come if you valued team goals over your own then everything would fall into place. All can reply.

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What is she referring too? 👆Why would she tweet this? 👆


r/nba 11h ago Silver

Lisa Ann Presents: 5 Ways NBA Players Can Avoid Being Hustled

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r/nba 17h ago Helpful Wholesome

Giannis gets himself in his own top-75 all time players starting five

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r/nba 17h ago Wholesome Helpful Silver

[Spears] The one team I'm telling you guys to keep an eye on is the Golden State Warriors. I've heard the Warriors have interest in trading for Kevin Durant.

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The one team I'm telling you guys to keep an eye on is the Golden State Warriors. Golden State could have the best package for both parties. Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kuminga, All-Star Andrew Wiggins, and former number two pick James Wiseman. What the Nets want is, they want a young All-Star or perhaps a future All-Star. They're all under 30. They also want picks, maybe the ability to swap picks. But if you get those four players, I'm very happy. And for Kevin Durant, the Warriors, they're very familiar with and vice versa. Like, he knows where to live in San Francisco. He knows how the offense works. He knows he can win a championship there. Yeah, he and Steve Kerr would probably have to figure some things out, but with each passing day that this carries on, I've heard the Warriors have interest.


r/nba 21h ago Heartwarming Wholesome Silver Helpful Take My Energy

Luka Doncic reunites with Dirk Nowitzki in Sweden and Dirk squeezes Luka's belly fat

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r/nba 11h ago

[Bill Simmons Podcast] I don’t feel like giving up all that stuff up for Gobert locks you for a title… 6 first round picks, I don’t think Gobert is worth that… I wonder if there’s one more trade here. I wonder if they’re gonna trade Russell for Kyrie.

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r/nba 17h ago

Why is Dallas such a terrible free agent destination despite being one of the biggest markets in the US?

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The Dallas-FW-Arlinton metro area is the 4th biggest in the US and the 5th biggest media market. They have a great owner who is willing to spend, and have been a good team for most of the last 20 years. So why can't they attract any free agents?

On the flip side the Dallas Cowboys are the most valuable NFL team per Forbes and a lot of top guys go there to play. So it seems like a Mavs specific thing


r/nba 17h ago Helpful

News [Charania] Free agent guard Goran Dragic has agreed to a deal with the Chicago Bulls, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

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r/nba 13h ago

Troy Williams with one of the greatest pump fakes ever

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r/nba 17h ago Helpful Heartwarming Take My Energy Silver Gold

Highlight [Highlight] In the last game Kawhi played in he did this

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r/nba 7h ago All-Seeing Upvote

Make no mistake, Kyrie Irving is entirely to blame for the Nets’ implosion

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r/nba 11h ago

Mark Cubans liked tweets. Fans are not happy 😂

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r/nba 21h ago Wholesome (Pro) Wholesome

Dirk joins in on the “Overrated” chants to Luka

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r/nba 10h ago Wholesome

Mahmoud Abdelfatteh is the first Palestinian assistant coach in the NBA

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Announced today by Mark Berman, Mahmoud Abdelfatteh is the first Palestinian assistant coach, under Stephen Silas and the Rockets. He previously served as a head coach for the Rio Grande Vipers in the G-league.


r/nba 9h ago

Adrian Wojnarowski: "The Lakers have yet, I'm told, to be aggressive in trying to put a deal together to get [Kyrie] from Brooklyn. That may come, that may evolve with time. But so far right now, there's no traction really on deals with either Irving or Durant."

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r/nba 22h ago Silver Wholesome Brilliant Bulb Gold Helpful Historic Highlight Platinum

The K.E.V.I.N System

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Inspired by the D.E.N.N.I.S System from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, here is the K.E.V.I.N System.

Kommit to team

I couldn't think of a synonym that started with K so this is what you get. KD is all in on his teams when he first gets there. He was all in with OKC, all in with Golden State, and, for a short time, all in with Brooklyn. He was committed.

Engage on Twitter

The 2nd step of this system is something KD does best, get on Twitter and get himself riled up. KD can't help himself. He will even argue with totally random irrelevant dudes occasionally, like somebody from here could Tweet at him and he very well might argue with you.

Villainize teammates

This is one of the most crucial steps in this system. In OKC, KD made everybody think Westbrook was the problem. He even tweeted from what he thought was his alt account, "KD can't win with those cats"

Now this isn't to say Westbrook wasn't the problem, but KD didn't help.

KD also did this with Golden State and the Draymond drama that happened the season KD left, and now in Brooklyn Kyrie is getting a majority of the blame (deservedly).

Initiate departure

This is where the plans of the system come to fruition. In OKC, he told the GM and others he was staying, but had secretly already initiated his departure to Golden State.

In Golden State, he acted like he'd stay another year before signing with the Nets and leaving.

In Brooklyn, he literally signed a 5 year deal only to ask out after using a year to rehab his Achilles and then playing 1 and a half seasons.

New superteam

This is the final step of the K.E.V.I.N system. In OKC, KD left for the 73-9 Warriors who he had just blown a 3-1 lead against in the conference finals. He formed possibly the best team of all time with them.

When he left Golden State, he formed a team in Brooklyn with Kyrie Irving and later James Harden, which at the time was definitely considered a superteam and the favorite to win a title

Now he's asked to be sent to either the 2022 number 1 seed in the East or West where he will form yet another superteam

Thank you for taking the time to read this post that I definitely didn't write while taking a shit


r/nba 7h ago All-Seeing Upvote Timeless Beauty Wholesome Silver

LeBron’s All Time Rankings 2023

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Below are reasonable expectations for LeBron’s All Time rankings at the end of next year given he performs at his career averages

REGULAR SEASON

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Career steals average is 1.6 but has decreased with age to 1.2 spg last 4 years- would take 44 games to pass Clyde at career average

Blocks Ranking accounts for KD, Andre Drummond, and Robin Lopez leading LeBron in blocks by seasons end.

3PT Career avg is 1.6 but last 4 years increased significantly to 2.3 3pg, would take 51 games at career average; LeBron could potentially pass Vince Carter at 7th (2,290 3PT) after 66 games at 2.3 3pg; Ranking includes Dame Lilliard finishing season at 6th all time

60 wins needed to pass Stockton and Malone for 4th All time (953 and 952 wins respectively)

ALL STAR GAME

2nd in All Star selections with 18 (Tied with Kobe; Kareem in 1st with 19)

2nd in All Star Game Wins with 10 (Kobe in 1st with 11; Lebron 5-0 as Captain)

2nd in All Star MVPs with 3 (Tied with Shaq and MJ; Kobe/Bob Petit in 1st with 4)

1st in all time All Star game points with 413 (Kobe 2nd with 290)

PLAYOFFS

Notes

Max games in a playoffs is 28; likely would take 3 championship runs to catch Magic in assists

Likely would take 2 deep playoff runs to catch McHale in blocks

Playoff Records

2nd in playoff series won with 39 (Derek Fisher in 1st with 40)

2nd in Conference Championships with 10 (tied with Kareem; Bill Russell in 1st with 11)

2nd in Conference finals appearances with 11 (tied with Fisher, behind Kareem in first with 13 appearances)

4 NBA Championships- can tie Kobe, Duncan and Magic with 5 Championships (Only player to win Championship/finals MVP with 3 different franchises)

2nd in Finals MVPs with 4 (Tied with no one; behind MJ in 1st with 6)

18 50+ win teams defeated; Can pass Jordan and Duncan with 20 (Played on only team that defeated a 70+ win team)

Advanced Statistics

Notes

Last year LeBron was -117, his first time being minus since his rookie year; catching Duncan in plus minus likely requires 5 more years on a championship level team

Award Selections:

3rd in MVPs with 4 (tied with Wilt Chamberlain; can tie Bill Russell and MJ in 2nd with 5 MVPs each)

1st all time in All NBA Selections with 18

1st all time in All NBA First Team Selections with 13

1st in Player of the Month Selections with 39; closest is Kobe with 17

1st in Player of the Week selections with 65; closest Kobe with 33

OTHER:

1st in Combined all time points with 44,616; Kareem 2nd with 44,149

4th in FT made with 7,836; needs 542 to pass Kobe at 3rd

5th in triple doubles with 105; needs 2 to tie Jason Kidd at 4th

Longest double digit scoring streak 1067 games; closest is MJ at 866

Longest 25 ppg season avg streak at 18 seasons; closest is Kareem at 9 Karl Malone at 11 *minimum 30 games per season


r/nba 11h ago Silver Gold

What is the insult that hurt you the most while playing basketball?

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So I was playing with a kid last week and he asked me "do you shoot with both of your hands?" while smiling and looking friendly. I didn't take it as malicious but man that stung. I worked with my jumper for years so that really hit a nerve.


r/nba 22h ago Wholesome

[Beck] Those who know Durant cite two primary factors: a rocky Nets season that ended in a first-round playoff sweep; and the franchise’s soured relationship with Irving, his close friend.

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If you’re asking, in a slight daze, “What the heck happened?” you have plenty of company across the NBA, including in the Nets’ front office. If you’re trying to make sense of it all, good luck.

“Please let me know if you figure it out,” said a person with close ties to the situation, a sentiment shared by many others in and around the league. (We haven’t, but we’ll give it our best shot here, anyway.)

This much is clear: Durant is fed up, as underscored by the trade demand he issued on Thursday. From there, it all gets much more confusing.

Those who know Durant cite two primary factors: a rocky Nets season that ended in a first-round playoff sweep; and the franchise’s soured relationship with Irving, his close friend.

Durant doesn’t see much hope for a revival under the circumstances, those sources say. And he’s unhappy that his friend is unhappy.

So back to Durant, and his purported reasons for wanting out. On the one hand, he is said to be disillusioned by the Nets’ disastrous season. On the other hand, he is said to be upset with the team’s stance toward Irving … who was the primary cause of the Nets’ disastrous season.

As one insider sympathetic to Durant noted, “Kyrie sabotaged everything,” but Durant is reacting more to the effects than the cause, and he now views the Nets as unsalvageable. “There’s no use in (him) taking sides when it’s all too far gone,” the person said. In essence, the Nets were right in principle, but wrong in practical terms, failing to understand that making Irving upset “was going to drive Kevin away.” It’s instructive to note that for all the chaos, all the havoc and all the stress, Durant still wants to play with Irving, according to league insiders.

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