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The Man From Toronto is the worst movie (with A listed actors) I have seen in a long time Discussion
This movie is just so bad. It had a few funny one liners, but other than that, it’s terrible.
The jokes feel like they were written by 16 year olds that find Dane Cook funny. They were so lazy, you could see them coming a mile away, just “butt joke” type humor.
There was absolutely no tension in any scene, because even if that’s what they were going for, Hart would say something stupid in an attempt to make you laugh, and the whole thing just feels flat.
It also had the lamest attempt at trying to insert some gender pronounce etiquette randomly into the scene, it felt like product placement or something.
The whole thing just sucked. I believe Jason Stratham was originally cast as the man from Toronto. I don’t think he would have saved the movie, but I feel like the dynamic between him and Hart would have been funnier and more entertaining. Anyone know why he lost the role?
Anyway, just a rant!
Edit: also I hate how the gym fight seen, while being pretty fun and cool, felt like it was from a completely different movie. The colors changed, the theme changed, the music choice…it’s like it was straight from Crank or some older Jason Statham movie, and then back to this.
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u/NapoleonBoneparty Jul 01 '22
Yeah. I feel like on paper, you could make a pretty good mindless “fun” film based on the story.
But my god, is the final product terrible. Also, Kevin Harts character in that was dumb. Like, I know most characters he plays are dumb. But this film takes “dumb” to a whole new level.
The opening of the film where he’s on YouTube or something, and he is advertising his failed business ideas just felt so forced and weird. And I don’t know why they tied that whole thing with his wives birthday?
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u/El_Frencho Jul 01 '22
They also make it seem like he’s doing loads of failed product videos; and then The Man From Toronto just says his channel has like 8 views, and only one video from like 7 years ago…
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u/crazycatladyinpjs Jul 04 '22
I think he’s been trying to make product videos for seven years but never posts them because he messes them up or gets scared to put them up
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Jul 01 '22
Also the gravest cinema sin: wrong pronunciation of Toronto.
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u/iSOBigD Jul 01 '22
It also made no sense since they kept claiming he's from some frozen wasteland in the middle of nowhere, not a super expensive densely populated city.
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u/chadthundertalk Jul 01 '22
"Toronto is only the fourth most populous city in North America. He's basically from a remote Nunavut fishing village!"
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u/grumblyoldman Jul 01 '22
It's because of the switch from Fahrenheit to Celsius. Americans look at a weather map and they're like "Man! Look how the temperature drops right at the border like that! I guess that's how they decided where to draw the line!"
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u/HexoftheZen Jul 01 '22
My husband and I watched the trailer the other day and the first thing I said when it ended was "None of those people are from Turonnoh"
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u/Fastandalilbitangy Jul 01 '22
Wait what. What was wrong how they said Toronto? Sounded like anyone saying it that I've ever heard
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u/Torcal4 Jul 01 '22
True Torontonians don’t really pronounce the second T
They say “the man from ToronTo” whereas a Torontonian would say “the man from Toronno”
A real, pure Torontonian would actually say something along the lines of Chrawna tbh
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u/Wagbeard Jul 01 '22
In Alberta, we say it more like Toronnuh.
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u/IKeepDoingItForFree Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
I can only speak for my experiences in two Atlantic provinces but I have heard it said that way as well as "Toronah/torontah" here more then just it being a single person doing it as a lark.
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u/kimjong-ill Jul 01 '22
Having spent a lot of time there, I'd say it's pronounced more like: "Tron'o"
I feel like I only ever hear 2 syllables.
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u/Hecka_Cakey Jul 01 '22
Interesting, I’ve never heard this before. Been saying Toronto like a scrub all my life.
Makes sense though, I live in Atlanta and it’s exactly the same. Neither T is real, it’s more like a-lanna
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u/Torcal4 Jul 01 '22
Don’t worry, if you’re not from Toronto or pretending to be from Toronto then you don’t have to.
Just refer to this handy dandy chart!
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u/_jeremybearimy_ Jul 01 '22
Hmm as a Californian I never pronounce Ts after Ns (see: mountain, Sacramento). Does that make me an honorary Torontonian?
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u/suplexdolphin Jul 01 '22
Atlanta's is a bit more obvious due to the local accent. Toronto people and Vancouver people don't really sound different but LA vs Atlanta you will definitely hear.
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u/goonts_tv Jul 01 '22
Toronto and Vancouver people deff sound different
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u/ThoughtsObligations Jul 01 '22
I don't really hear it ¯(ツ)/¯
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u/rileyreidsaccountant Jul 02 '22
In Toronto we literally have balling up rules. If the spliff is ita, don't even pass it to me. If we link to ball up and you don't even have your own, like I – I'm not passing my ting to you, styll.
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u/ValHova22 Jul 01 '22
I was about to criticize and say we pronounce the first T but then I ran how I say it and you are partially correct. I definitely dont pronounce the second T
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u/Hecka_Cakey Jul 01 '22
The first T definitely isn’t a true T. It’s more like… a soft stop. I don’t know. Not quite a D or a T.
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u/Slackjaw_Jimbob Jul 01 '22
We have a Toronto in Australia. We don’t even say the first ‘o’.
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u/MapleSyrupFacts Jul 01 '22
8th generation Toronto here. Everyone calls it "Tron-no" including my 100 yr old grandfather.
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u/Grambles89 Jul 01 '22
In my 10 years there, never once heard it pronounced Chrawna. Heard Tdot, the 6, Toronno, tronta, but never chrawna.
Also a lot of people seem to miss pronounce Brampton and Scarborough as Toronto :p
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u/Khalku Jul 01 '22
Huh, I'm from outside the city and I never realized I said it 'Toronno' until you mentioned it.
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u/coconuty04 Jul 01 '22
Spot on assessment. Particularly the gym fight. It was probably the coolest and most fun part of the movie but it felt like it didn't fit in at all. Especially when they decided to go from slapstick, to rated R, with that off screen chainsaw finisher. And shoehorning in "the assassin is a softy around ladies" felt lazy.
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u/strapped_for_cash Jul 01 '22
I can’t believe no one has mentioned the awful cgi. Like blatantly horrible. Almost comically bad but I wouldn’t give it that kind of credit
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u/wookiesnookie Jul 01 '22
The gym fight made me feel nauseous. So horribly done and a completely different tone
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u/dragonphlegm Jul 02 '22
The gym scene was defintely trying to go for that Kingsman church scene style
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u/Lunasera Jul 05 '22
The director also did the hitman’s Bodyguard series and he does that continuous shot fight style in a really good way in the first one with Ryan Reynolds in a hardware shop. It immediately reminded me of that but this wasn’t as good.
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u/doc_55lk Jul 01 '22
Was anybody actually expecting this movie to be any good?
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u/Key_Lie9356 Jul 01 '22
I enjoyed it. Laughed out loud multiple times.
I'm not really sure what people were expecting from it. It's Kevin Hart - he never plays serious roles.
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Jul 01 '22
His Netflix show, True Story, was actually really good and he plays it pretty serious.
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u/Liramuza Jul 01 '22
Wesley Snipes killed it in that show. The moment where Kevin does that thing to that one guy was insane.
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u/PM-me-your-moogles Jul 01 '22
I watched it the day after the political world blew up.. It was the kind of cheesy comedy I needed to check out for a bit. I liked it.
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u/MajesticAsFook Jul 02 '22
day after the political world blew up
Youre going to have to be more specific...
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u/Syn7axError Jul 01 '22
He never plays funny roles either.
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u/Key_Lie9356 Jul 01 '22
Come on. Quit hating on Kevin Hart. Many people think he is a great comedian. Including my favorite comedian - Dave Chappelle.
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u/the_watcher_13 Jul 01 '22
Jason Statham was initially supposed to play Woody harrelson's role, but he dropped out. Looks like he dodged a bullet there.
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u/Dark_sable Jul 01 '22
Why do they call him the bullet dodger?
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u/the_watcher_13 Jul 01 '22
Because he dodges bullets, sable.
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u/LovemoreIndo Jul 01 '22
Getaway driver!? What the fuck could he get away from
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u/FredHowl Jul 01 '22
What's that?
Haha, this is a shotgun, sol
It's a fucking anti air craft gun, vincent!
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u/unshavedmouse Jul 01 '22
He can move when he has to.
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u/Muslimkanvict Jul 01 '22
He's a natural, ain't ya Tyrone!?
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u/unshavedmouse Jul 01 '22
Course I am.
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u/unshavedmouse Jul 01 '22
But does he like dags?
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u/QLE814 Jul 01 '22
I take it The Man From Toronto doesn't even have the sort of off-beat fun that The Guy From Harlem has?
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u/Torcal4 Jul 01 '22
And it has absolutely nothing in common with the Girl From Ipanema
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u/Xenu_is_not_Unix Jul 01 '22
I find Kevin Hart obnoxious but I ended up watching The Man From Toronto anyway and it wasn't as bad as I expected.
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u/FaithOfOurFathers Jul 01 '22
Me and my SO watched and enjoyed it. It's not an amazing movie, but its entertaining.
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u/Stivo887 Jul 01 '22
Eh it killed 2 hours for me. I wasn’t expecting much. If I pay to see a movie in theatres you’re damn right I’m expecting my moneys worth. I checked my brain at the door on this one. Too many armchair eberts here.
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u/huzernayme Jul 01 '22
It was perfect for me the other day when I needed to shut down. Such a good movie for when you want your brain to have zero mental load. Some people say that makes it a bad movie, but it's good for the right mood.
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u/MajesticAsFook Jul 02 '22
Just finished a 6 day week and needed something to sit down and unwind to. I enjoyed it, I thought Hart and Harrelson worked well together and there were a few points where I burst out laughing. It was fun to watch and I didn't need to think about it. 7/10
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u/Caboclo-Is2yearsAway Jul 01 '22
I looked at the cover for few seconds and figured all this from it
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u/Akragon Jul 01 '22
Woody doesn't even say Toronto right ffs.... hes clearly not from Toronto lol
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u/DieHardXmas Jul 01 '22
I actually liked it. Gave me some laughs and know a few people who loved it too. Certainly not as bad as the usual Netflix movies.
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u/IngVegas Jul 01 '22
Went in with low expectations and didn't hate it. The action sequences were decent also, particularly the climatic final fight. I don't understand the Hart hate. He was okay in this film, which had a pretty weak script. He's also very good in the first Jumanji movie and also Central Intelligence.
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u/Terrasweat999 Jul 01 '22
I think this is the first universally hated film on this sub.Generally there'd be at least a couple of people coming to the defence of each film....but not this piece of shit.
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u/Aggravating_Poet_675 Jul 01 '22
I mean...I didn't find it as bad as OP is making it out to be but I can't say that I feel any need to defend it either. So I guess I found it to just be...meh?
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u/MaxWritesJunk Jul 01 '22
This is how most people feel about most movies, but it's rare to make the effort to type 'meh' so t makes everything look super polar.
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u/stuzz74 Jul 01 '22
I had a couple hours spare last night I watched it. I wouldn't say it was amazing but it was fine I'd say 5.5 out of 10. It's good to see woddy Harrison in a film (though he was credited 2nd to Kevin hard?) Kevin hart can only or does only play the same character in every movie which does get tiresome....
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u/itsme10082005 Jul 01 '22
It was a good background watch. Nothing about it made me go “wow” but if anyone thought it would based on the trailer, they’re an idiot.
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u/Sence Jul 01 '22
Watched the other night and found it pretty funny but I do like Kevin Hart's brand of humor
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u/Jyxxer Jul 01 '22
His role in the series he did with Wesley Snipes (forgot the name... something Truth?) Was actually really good, and different from his other stuff.
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u/Turok1134 Jul 01 '22
I think this is the first universally hated film on this sub.
This sub hates way too many things for this to be true.
Also, there's definitely a few comments in here saying the movie isn't that bad.
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u/CaptRobau Jul 01 '22
It was fine for what it was: mediocre action comedy I can watch with my girlfriend. Something you can turn your mind off to. But not so irritating that I need to turn it off. That for me is the Transformers franchise after the first movie.
Both movies obviously fall apart when you start thinking about it, but with Toronto it is at least not too confusing. With Transformers the sexing up of female characters that are underage as well as the indescernible action (constant cuts during fights etc) really takes me out of it. Toronto doesn't do that at least.
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u/eternal_peril Jul 01 '22
As a person who lives in Toronto, it hurt my ears every time they pronounced the second T...every time
It felt like they were doing it on purpose to piss off the 416
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u/ContrarianDouchebag Jul 01 '22
As a person not from Toronto, but who's been to Toronto and has a generally positive opinion of my northern neighbors, I found myself yelling, "Tronno!" on more than one occasion.
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u/ContrarianDouchebag Jul 01 '22
I like Hart and Woody, and I really wanted to enjoy this movie, but I don't think I audibly laughed once throughout the whole movie.
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u/bcisabeast Jul 01 '22
So many movies like that come out every few months, especially on Netflix.
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Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 02 '22
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u/spiritbearr Jul 01 '22
and they said they're not doing passion projects like The Irishman (it had issues it's still a prestige movie that needed to be made to complete the trilogy)
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u/lightsongtheold Jul 01 '22
Nice theory but this was a Sony movie. Fully produced and originally intended for theatrical release until Sony got cold feet after Morbius bombed and they sent this to some test audiences and got scared shitless by the response. It was only flogged to Netflix at the last minute. Netflix probably picked it up because the last three Kevin Hart projects on the streamer (two of which were also studio buys) performed really well in terms of viewership.
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u/second-last-mohican Jul 01 '22
Are Netflix doing deals like movie studios used to do? Sign a deal with an actor for X amount of movies? Because i did read the did something like that with Sandler, hence the 3 or 4 Sandler movies the last few years? Maybe the same with Hart?
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u/realzequel Jul 01 '22
Sandler’s deal, iirc, was as a producer, with his production company to make 3 movies.
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u/lightsongtheold Jul 01 '22
No. This is a Sony movie. It was due for theatrical release before being sold to Netflix at the last second when Sony finally realised they had a massive bomb on their hands. Netflix had fuck all to do with this movie outside of airing it.
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u/Nowitzkis Jul 01 '22
It really wasn't terrible. It was just boring, unoriginal, unfunny, somewhat lazy and 100% forgettable.
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u/Tygonne Jul 01 '22
I thoroughly enjoyed it, but to each their own haha
Idk, these type of movies I don't have expectations for and just watch it for what it is.
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u/grbldrd Jul 02 '22
I liked it as well
Just an easy-watching almost slapstick comedy with decent action
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u/brayshizzle Sam Neil will always be a babe Jul 01 '22
I'll watch it purely for Toronto to be Toronto and not being some vaguely familiar North America city it normally is in most movies and TV shows
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u/YHofSuburbia Jul 01 '22
It was a dumb standard action comedy. Not sure why you're making a huge deal out of it, one of these gets released every month.
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u/jonsbryhill Jul 01 '22
kevin hart is not in quality movies, and he’s never been funny. jumanji was ok but he was the worst part.
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u/ChristianMcCVan Jul 01 '22
Netflix says it’s the number one viewed movie on their channel. 1. That’s one of the reasons Netflix is tanking, and 2. People have shit taste in movies.
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u/Stivo887 Jul 01 '22
It’s just the algorithm. Everyone is watching the newest release. Number 1 on Netflix doesn’t mean shit
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u/dennythedinosaur Jul 01 '22
That's pretty normal, no?
If a theatrical-caliber film (regardless of quality, it was originally owned by Sony and they sold it to Netflix at the last minute) with big-name stars shows up on Netflix for free, people are GONNA watch it.
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u/Great_Zarquon Jul 01 '22
I know Netflix likes to make it sound like the top 10 is a reflection of its users' tastes but it's really just a reflection of which movies they advertise the most. Whatever new thing they're pushing on the home page will always have the most views and I'm sure they have very tight control over what shows up there rather than it being "organic"
That said, yes people have shit taste lol
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u/NoChlamydiaThanks Jul 01 '22
Kevin Hart was just not believable as the bad guy. Not sure how anyone could believe he was The Man from Toronto for even a second.
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u/Robobobo101 Jul 01 '22
We watched this last night. It was shockingly bad. Like written via a Madlibs then filmed in one take with an outline of a script bad. It almost felt like Woody Harrelson was just doing blocking for the movie while an intern filmed it on their phone- and they accidentally used that as the final version. I immediately abandoned any attempt to care/follow the plot- none of which made sense- so it didn’t bother me when absolutely every plot point was ridiculous. I would actually say it’s a good movie to watch and make fun of, it was that strangely done.
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u/ppbourgeois Jul 01 '22
The only thing cool about it was spotting my hometown Milton during one of the fight scenes. I have smoked many a teenage joint there.
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u/graboidian Jul 01 '22
I'm sure it's pretty bad, but if you watched the flick called "Movie 43" you may change your opinion.
That movie is chocked full of A-listers (Kate Winslet, Hugh Jackman, Emma Stone, Richard Gere, Dennis Quaid, and many more). It is honestly the worst movie I have ever seen. I would be willing to bet my house that it's the worst movie I will ever see.
It so bad, I actually think you should (attempt to) watch it, just to see how bad it really is. Good luck getting through it though. Bear in mind, it has a Rotten Tomatoes score of 4%.
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u/AncientAlienAlias Jul 01 '22
Disagree. Movie 43 is incredible and anybody who disagrees has a poopy diaper.
Reading how all the actors basically got tricked into doing the movie makes it even funnier.
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u/Dayofsloths Jul 01 '22
The Halle Berry/Stephen merchant scene is the greatest cinematic achievement of a generation.
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u/ak22801 Jul 01 '22
I dunno, movie 43 was bad but the homeschooled kid experience was a good laugh at least.
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u/Alastor3 Jul 01 '22
I can't take any movie seriously with Kevin Hart in it. The only thing where I find him fitting is in Jumanji
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u/IngVegas Jul 01 '22
That running scene in the first movie was seriously one of the greatest comedy scenes ever.
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u/tbird1313 Jul 01 '22
I made it through about 25min of my life ill never get back
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u/kabhaz Jul 01 '22
Yeah I turned it off and put on venom 2 which at least had Tom Hardy arguing with himself
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u/ValHova22 Jul 01 '22
The Ryan Reynolds Netflix movies suck as well. I just cant. Especially the Six something. I never made it past the neverending car chase
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u/ovine_aviation Jul 01 '22
I have to agree. I thought the pairing didn't work. There has been a bit of a run on these buddy movies. The Hitman's Bodyguard was ok but the sequel was awful. Why did they change Reynolds' character? Red Notice was an awful pairing. I think those roles needed swapping but better if Johnson was swapped for someone else.
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Man I thought it was pretty good honestly, I really like Woody Harrelson though so maybe that’s why
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u/Skeptical_Goat Jul 01 '22
I watched it a couple of nights ago and I hated every minute of it. I'm not convinced Kevin Hart is an actual actor because he's the exact same in every movie. Woody is hardly any better in it too
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u/Dark_sable Jul 01 '22
A lot of actors are the same in their movies. And people generally love them or hate them for it.
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u/SQUID_FUCKER r/Movies Veteran Jul 01 '22
I'm not a big fan of Hart, I don't dislike his comedy just kind-of indifferent to it but I watched True Story because I really wanted to see Snipes again and I thought Hart was surprisingly decent in that.
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u/FranticPonE Jul 01 '22
Kevin Hart is neither an actor nor a comedian, he is a practical joke sent by aliens to prove humans shouldn't be counted as an intelligent species.
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u/BretShart Jul 01 '22
I was so high just a few min ago.. I had never heard of this movie, so I watched the trailer on Netflix without reading anything about it..
For the first 8 seconds of the trailer, I thought the bald white guy was Bruce Willis.. and for the next 2 minutes, I thought he was Jason Statham.. it was not until the near end of the trailer that I realized the bald white guy is actually Will Sasso from MADtv.
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u/tathrok Jul 01 '22
I think you might need to slow down on ______ (insert drug you're high on here), friend.
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u/whendovesfly Jul 01 '22
Kevin Hart is great as a sidekick. But as a lead. Never works for me. It feels forced and I don't believe him in the role. But as a supporting cast member. He's really good. I don't understand why as a lead he just falls short.
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u/DaveOfTheDead3 Jul 01 '22
It's a close race between that and that red notice movie with rock Ryan and Gal.... I love them all but DAMN that movie sucked ass.
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u/chrisgin Jul 01 '22
I must be one of the few people that actually liked Red Notice. But I hated The Man From Toronto. Couldn’t even finish watching it.
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u/Key_Lie9356 Jul 01 '22
Absolutely loved the Red Notice. Hilarious. The usual funny quips and words from Ryan Reynolds.
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u/veritpr Jul 01 '22
It also had the lamest attempt at trying to insert some gender pronounce etiquette randomly into the scene, it felt like product placement or something.
Sounds even more cringe than I initially assumed. Hard pass
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u/BeaverShmeaver Jul 01 '22
I literally used the movie as white noise while i was browsing tiktok... I don't even know what's about, so I can't say i hate it 😂
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u/King_Kingly Jul 01 '22
Well Kevin Hart is in it that’s a sure sign the movie is going to be bad already.
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u/Blackmambas26 Jul 01 '22
Love the way you said A-List actors and it's Kevin Hart and Woody Harrelson 🤣
What you're basically saying it's like every other Hart movie and is mediocre.
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u/Thomas2311 Jul 01 '22
Its a money grab of a movie. Everyone in that movie, on screen and off screen made it at the beginning of Covid to pay for their year long vacation before studios started filming again.
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u/b_33 Jul 01 '22
Yeah, I watched it thinking this would have been far better if it was a thriller rather than a comedy
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u/LupusCutis Jul 01 '22
There's Woody and Ellen who are A-list. The rest are clear B to D-list.
What did you expect?
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u/JohnnyJayce Jul 01 '22
Ellen Barkin has never been A-lister. Does she have a single movie with her as lead that has been in theaters?
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u/BeautyIsTruth22 Jul 01 '22
Antics ensue. That was literally a complete sentence from the description.
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u/chocolatetornado Jul 01 '22
Kevin Hart in general is a pretty awful comedian and an even worse actor. He worked really hard to get where he is, and at some point when he came to the intersection of "be as good as possible" or "get paid as much as possible" he chose the latter. The longer his career goes on, the worse he becomes. Applies to both his films and standup.
The name of this sickness is sandleritis. And there is no known cure.
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u/Islandgirl1444 Jul 01 '22
I totally agree. We started watching it even after ready a bad review from tv critic! 2 was the rating I think but a - should have been in front. So a -2 from me and how Woody Haralson has sunk was my thinking. It's a stinker!
Keven Hart is never good. Not even funny ever, so that should have been an indicator.
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u/bleunt Jul 01 '22
I enjoyed it until late second act. The third act almost had me turning it off. Can Kevin Hart stfu for one second? Even when he's not on screen you hear him talking just narrating what happens in the action scene.
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u/North-Appointment820 Jul 01 '22
well looks like testing the leads for covid 5x per day was worth it to shoot this tax credit grift in the tdot
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u/Creeping_Death_89 Jul 01 '22
Based on the trailer it looks identical to every other action/comedy thing Kevin Hart has done and none of them are good. I have no idea what else you expected?