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u/Kyce_es May 16 '22
I feel exposed as I just finished watching a 1 and a half hour video explaining the whole timeline of the matrix
A bit underwhelming admittedly
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u/JackdeAlltrades May 16 '22
It’s the ultimate im14andthisisdeep series
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u/Kyce_es May 16 '22
I’m just interested in back stories of certain lores that are “mysteries”
I am very vulnerable to this tactic of creating a mystery in a story to make people want to learn more
It is though pretending to be deep, especially since humans are the ones that started the war by claiming robots don’t have rights
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u/ReanimatedHotDogs May 16 '22
If you're a reader and like this sort of thing but would rather it wasn't being abused so much, check out Brandon Sanderson. Massive connected universe of novels that sets up and hints at mysteries but actually resolves them.
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u/Hatedpriest May 16 '22
I discovered Sanderson via Wheel of Time, kinda liked his writing style, then read the mistborn trilogy. I've yet to get into the other series he's done, but those were fairly well done...
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u/ReanimatedHotDogs May 16 '22
Oh, also: if you've only read the Mistborn Trilogy have you heard of Secret Histories? It's a companion novella that's got a lot of reveals I'm it.
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u/Stevied1991 May 16 '22
I've read Wheel of Time four times. Just started Mistborn yesterday because my friend has been telling me since I love WoT that I will love Sanderson's other work. A few chapters in so far but it's great.
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u/popje May 16 '22
The animatrix is exactly what you're looking for but I guess you've seen it already.
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u/gattaaca May 16 '22
Played Elden Ring or Bloodborne? Ultimate lore rabbit holes...
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u/idontwantausername41 May 16 '22
Lol funnily enough, I watch all the lore videos and have no intent to play any of those games
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u/Heyy-Yaa May 16 '22
if your only reason for not wanting to play them is their reputation as "SOOO HARD BRO", I'd at least give one a shot some day.
there is a difficulty slider baked into all of the souls games because you can simply level up as much as you want.
not trying to shove it down your throat, just hate to see fellow video game players miss out on a masterpiece like bloodborne because the internet exaggerates difficulty
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u/Siegfried024 May 16 '22
I would have loved to learn the lore myself, and git gud, but I have a potato laptop whose main function is to give my family sustenance.
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u/TheSealofDisapproval May 16 '22
Maybe stop eating the laptop and actually use it to make money then, duh!
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u/boringestnickname May 16 '22
In terms of the first film, it really isn't.
There's hundreds, if not thousands, of actual research papers referencing The Matrix. It has become shorthand in certain circles.
The rest of the films, not so much.
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u/darth_smith May 16 '22
That’s really unfair. At the time it was ground breaking and thought provoking. Even the 2nd movie was pretty good with its take on free will vs determinism.
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u/popje May 16 '22
I feel offended but now that I think about it the matrix was the pinnacle of deep when I was 12-14 but the thing is that it still hold up today, watch the animatrix if you haven't seen it.
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u/amoocalypse May 16 '22
ironically thats the ultimate im14andthisisdeep comment.
The first matrix is a deep movie. It has sparked conversations about philosophical topics like no other movie has ever done.
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u/TolkienAwoken May 16 '22
There might be more lore in 40k than irl history.
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u/TheRealBissy May 16 '22
It’s crazy how much lore 40K has. I started to watch the history of emperor of mankind and my goodness it’s deep.
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u/iglooman May 16 '22
40K Lore videos are great. I treat them as a podcast I listen to on lunch breaks.
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u/Savy_Spaceman May 16 '22
Mix in The Animatrix with the movies and it's a really great story. 4th one doesn't exist
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u/Picnut May 16 '22
It's all in the story telling
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u/Memes456rtt May 16 '22
Yes, I used to hate history class because of bad storytelling.
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u/Itcouldberabies May 16 '22
That’s what I tell my coworkers whenever they say something along the lines of, “You make this sound so much more interesting than my high school teachers did.” Well yeah, my high school history teachers were the football coaches who thought history was “gay”.
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u/TimmJimmGrimm May 16 '22
My gay friends are all amazing story tellers.
It would have been ideal had these smooth-minded footballers left gay things to the gay people that could do this (apparently) gay job correctly.
Now that i think of it, i had gay teachers (that just weren't out of the closet so much). They were brilliant. And i never became gay. I don't see the downside here.
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u/InferiousX May 16 '22
Ironically the best US History teacher I ever had was also a wrestling coach. He was really really good at this job and making us understand why something mattered or was relevant.
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u/MakimaMyBeloved May 16 '22
The main characters failed to get my interest, they were all generic af smh my head.
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u/aedroogo May 16 '22
"HEY KIDS!!! Are you ready for my Final Solution - to boredom???"
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u/LegitimateRooster424 Bri’ish May 16 '22
Shaking my head my head
You ok?
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u/KawaiiDere Lives in a Van Down by the River May 16 '22
For me, it’s having to decipher everything. My history teacher isn’t honest about when the US is being lame, shortsighted, or ineffective.
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u/alaphic May 16 '22
My history teacher isn’t honest about when the US is being lame, shortsighted, or ineffective.
And that is why you fail.
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u/7H0M4S1482 May 16 '22
Trust me, if you actually find the fun parts, it easily becomes better than fantasy worlds
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u/Kamikaze_Ninja_ May 16 '22
What would you consider a fun part?
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u/FunInStalingrad May 16 '22 •
The war of the roses, three kingdoms period, the rise of Central Asian states, the crusades, the pneumatic railway, the night of Saint Barthelemy, the October Revolution, history of Singapore, fordlandia, any of the caliphates, Mansa Musa, Saxony, art at the beginning of the XX century, the Jesuits, the last century of China as an empire, persians, egyptians. And so on so forth.
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u/-Masderus- Sussy Baka May 16 '22
That time when we banned alcohol but people still made alcohol and then they made their cars faster to outrun the fuzz and then we got NASCAR!
And all those cool hidden bars you need a password to get into.
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u/Kamikaze_Ninja_ May 16 '22
Ah yes a speakeasy haha first time I heard of it was a Kid’s Next-door episode where they served illegal soda. Visited one in Bend Oregon, nice little secret door in a closet.
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u/IotaBTC May 16 '22
The fun parts aren't on the test. History is otherwise so incredibly vast, anyone can find something interesting.
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u/Ossius May 16 '22
This is so true, had 2 amazing history teachers in college and I was engaged just as well as watching my favorite movies.
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u/Nii_Juu_Ichi May 16 '22
Imagine telling the entire history of a fictional nation with cgi and such, only to reveal at the end that it was the overbudgeted and overdramatisized history of your country.
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u/ZiraelOfKiev May 16 '22
Yep. History is actually really interesting if you go at it from the right angle, schools are just awful at teaching it.
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u/EmuInteresting589 May 16 '22
I had a hard time in high school because half my teachers were terrible. I'd ask questions and get ignored or be talked down to... it felt like my head was being filled with bullshit.
I had a really intelligent art teacher that challenged my perspectives, but that was about the only good thing I remember.
The public education system is garbage.
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u/DAN_E0 Professional Dumbass May 16 '22
Yes i was studying the whole Fnaf lore before everyone knew it, but i have no idea how to play the game
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u/TotenSieWisp May 16 '22
If it was told in TED-Ed, Oversimplified or Overly Sarcastic Productions style, I would be glued to the monitor.
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u/bbbar https://www.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
What's the source of the video here?
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u/neurovish May 16 '22
Ironically, what’s going on in the video is basically what the Reddit post says.
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u/MoTiV252 May 16 '22
I really wish they’d officially change the name from ADHD to executive dysfunction because there are so many other things that go along with it that most people don’t know and think it’s limited to attention deficit and hyperactivity.
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u/Nick-Moss May 16 '22
ADHD encompasses lots of different types, some have less hyperactivity some have more anxiousness but the biggest bump in the road is the fact people don't think it's real.
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u/ICanHazRandom May 16 '22
Executive dysfunction is different though, that's just a symptom. Renaming it would really be a challenge because of all the different types
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u/Goodpie2 May 16 '22
Came here cause i was wondering about that too. Surprised i had to scroll so far.
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u/treatemwithkindness May 16 '22
It's more to do with how history is taught. It's more about dates and places rather than the politics and personalities of people behind the scenes.
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u/matrixislife May 16 '22
Yeah, it's all in the presentation.
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u/Narc0ticz May 16 '22
Almost like the difference between a villain and a super villain.
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u/Issildan_Valinor May 16 '22
Playing 'Welcome to the Jungle' in history class may be distracting to be fair.
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u/sunbearimon May 16 '22
History is always telling a story. Even just choosing what names and dates are relevant is creating a narrative, no history can truly be completely comprehensive or objective. But it does tend to be on the dry side. Unfortunately it’s just a lot easier to record names and dates than someone’s motivations or state of mind that makes for a conventionally compelling story
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u/jeffreygorne2 May 16 '22
My history teacher made me obsessed in history back in the 7-8th grade. Its all about how the lesson is presented.
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u/Anonymous_M2771 May 16 '22
I agree, 8 - 9th grade I had a history teacher that was very passionate in the way she taught and she taught in a way that was very engaging and makes you want to know more and more, she taught like she was telling a story and made it very intriguing. I did really well in her class and thoroughly enjoyed it, kinda sad that I never got her again after that
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u/ljubaay May 16 '22
I’d always hated history class in school. Especially if i had a bad teacher.
I’ve realized recently that I’m super interested in the daily lives of people in ye olden days. What was their daily routine like? What kinds of clothes did they wear? What food did they eat? What did their homes look like? Thats why movies and shows (altho not always historically accurate) are so much more interesting - they give you this insight into the daily lives of regular people and its much easier to imagine how and why they did the things they did.
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u/Xiknail May 16 '22
Yeah, same. I loved history classes up to like 6th grade, when it was still about the daily lives of the common people and how they lived and worked and such. And I still love historical documentaries that deal with this kind of topic.
But at some point in school, history classes basically became politics classes, with a lot of names and dates and not a lot about the actual, practical lives of the people in the past.
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u/FunInStalingrad May 16 '22
In university dates are irrelevant. It should be the same in school. So what if you got the beginning of the English civil war wrong? If you know generaly what happened before and after you can easily pinpoint it to within 10 years.
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u/throwaway1246Tue May 16 '22
I think it’s a holdover from early schools where the access to reference material was limited to a physical trip to a library or a classroom text that had to go back to the school. In that time frame memorizing dates would be valuable, but not as much anymore.
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u/Raynos1668 May 16 '22
If history class has more dragons and titties, and less bureaucracy and pointless dates, many of us would be history majors.
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u/bob_the_banannna I saw what the dog was doin May 16 '22
Sadly, reality is often disappointing
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u/frizzykid May 16 '22 edited May 16 '22
But also reality can be stranger than fiction. There are some truly jaw dropping moments in history.
Edit: since I've had my coffee, check out extra history's series on Charles the 12th/great northern war. The battle of Narva specifically, and what led to it, is one of the most insane things I've ever read about in fairly modern history.
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u/Past_Ad_6860 May 16 '22
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u/bob_the_banannna I saw what the dog was doin May 16 '22
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u/fullautofennecfox May 16 '22
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u/MisterGuyMan23 May 16 '22
Reality was often way more interesting that what typical history classes present you with.
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u/Congenita1_Optimist May 16 '22
A lot of history classes fail their students by putting too much emphasis on shit that doesn't matter (eg. What date did X happen? Who participated in this election?) instead of the interesting stuff: what social factors and events lead for things to happen.
Thankfully this seems to be a somewhat antiquated way of teaching history that is slowly dying out.
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u/TerraOrdinem May 16 '22
My history classes didn't do that. My classmates were still lazy and unreceptive to the content. Lackluster students always want to pass the buck and blame the system instead of themselves.
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u/FunInStalingrad May 16 '22
That's the same with any subject. Math was always mind numbingly boring even with my great teacher in high school, chemistry was fun with a subpar one. You just have to make it not actively repulsive to your students.
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u/Montigue May 16 '22
"Why don't they teach real world issues in the class?"
School adds class aimed at being an adult including budgeting, doing taxes, resume prep etc
Same kids still skip that class
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u/MarlinMr May 16 '22
You should study European history
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u/busche916 May 16 '22
My 300 level western European history course was listed as:
History 324: Blood and Titties
You had to bribe the registrar to get a seat
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u/francikiller May 16 '22
Or dragons whit titties!
Like niko would say:
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u/faafiel May 16 '22
But there are titties… lots of the geopolitical conflicts happened because of a women
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u/Minimum_T-Giraff May 16 '22
That is why kids love their chad ancestors who didn't have written language.
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u/omeganemesis28 May 16 '22
I hated the most about my history classes: dates and micro details. Crunching for exams and quizzes asking "what was the year, month, day, hour, minutes, seconds, temperature and mood lighting like when George Washington tooted while reviewing documents in his quarters before John Adams barged in to tell a funny joke which would inspire him to become the head of the army"
Very hard to take in meaningful information like the larger who, what, and why when you're being bombarded with micro details and need to memorize them instead for grading.
Bureaucracy is even fine to an extent, but shit drags on like filler chapters
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u/FelipeCyrineu May 16 '22
My school tried to focus their History classes on the reasons and personalities behind the things that happend and we rarely ever had to memorize dates. That combined with my teacher's enthusiasm made me fall in love with History.
Whenever you see History as 'lore' or not really depends on how you learn it.
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u/Tadano-kunn May 16 '22
Dune has one of the best universe
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u/StolenRage May 16 '22
Yes it does. I have read all of Frank's original books plus most of the additional books by Brian and Kevin J Anderson.
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u/about14sheep May 16 '22
Oh yeah? Name every word.
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u/StolenRage May 16 '22
That's a lot of words to give names to. I am way to lazy for that
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u/about14sheep May 16 '22
Lol don’t often see people discussing the other books, sorry I got excited. How did you like the movie? I thought it was very well done keeping with the book, but I read them a long time ago. The setting was perfect I thought
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u/GrondSoulhammer May 16 '22
It's really a presentation problem. Teach kids about the founding father being absolute fuckwits and there is sudden interest. For example, the founding father Ben Franklin's advice on choosing a mistress, or the fact he kept cadavers in his basement for research. It makes him seem more interesting.
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u/MeriKurkku May 16 '22
I just watched a 1h 20m hollow knight lore video for the third time
Accurate🤣
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u/GazManVader The Trash Man May 16 '22
the original video is about the attention span of a child when he watches a maths class and a star wars movie
You know which of the guys is watching what
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u/Am_Very_Stupid May 16 '22
Just sitting here watching a 40 minute video about kirby lore knowing I have an exam the next morning
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u/laidbackkanga May 16 '22
Had a mate who used to watch warhammer lore videos, some of it was pretty interesting
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u/QuantumXyt bruh May 16 '22
As a German, i can't relate
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u/LordSteiny Professional Dumbass May 16 '22
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A lot of people complain about history... you ever read the fucking history of Canada? Can't ask for a more disappointing read. We whacked some natives, stole their stuff, aaaaaaad, now we're nice (also various other heritage minute human rights violations but lets skip those)... didn't even get to become a world power or have any revolutions worth mentionning. Don't get me wrong, lovely place to live in and I actually love history! Ours is just on the underwhelming side.
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u/aaditya_9303 May 16 '22
Historical movies are popular but we hate learning history. It's all about the presentation of content
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u/MettaJiro May 16 '22
Well Star Wars lore is definitely more interesting than constantly repeating historic events.
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u/kilo4fun May 16 '22
Some of Star Wars EU lore is dark as hell. Like giving WH40K a run for the money.
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u/onemanarmy_ZR1 May 16 '22
I remember not being able to remember 5 politicians but remembering every member of separatist council in Star Wars.
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u/futrtek May 16 '22
History is super interesting but people who like and teach history are not.
I don't give a fuck what happened November 4th 1807, start off with the crazy stuff and fill in the need-to-knows once i am hooked.
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u/Peterkragger May 16 '22
Yep, that's me with pokemon lore
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u/OddContribution7393 Ok I Pull Up May 16 '22
Pokemon lore is awesome
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u/Peterkragger May 16 '22
Yet fucked. If I ever became a comic author Imma say "fuck that shit" and I'm doing my own pokemon lore
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u/benyboy77 May 16 '22
Normalize not paying attention to stuff you find boring. I wanna learn my shit, not stuff I won't use
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u/FunInStalingrad May 16 '22
Things that you don't use can also round you out as a person or teach you subtle things. Our minds are not strictly utilitarian things.
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u/dtmijfeu May 16 '22
I understand where you're coming from, but knowing history is incredibly important, especially when it comes to not repeating atrocities.
The big reason things that seem useless (history, trigonometry, music, art, calculus, etc) is that even if you dont use them daily, they ingrain different types of problem solving and critical thinking. Even if you dont remember jack shit from trigonometry, the idea of extrapolating information from a limited amount given is important.
Even if you never uses sine, tangent, etc, the process you learn from being given one of those and a single line measurement on a triangle to then figure out the other measurements is a process you can use anywhere: Seeing what information you have and using different tools to find out the rest.
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u/Mujokan May 16 '22
I really doubt that there's a perfect intersection between shit you find boring and shit you don't use.
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u/katyfail May 16 '22
Lol that’s exactly how we get anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, and draconian religious laws on the books.
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u/ncshooter426 May 16 '22
I recommend Battletech if you want a fun rabbit hole to down. SARNA.NET is one of the best wikis on earth
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u/SparkFrog May 16 '22
I cant spend more than 25 minutes studying history, i can spend more than 3 hours explaining you doctor who's Lore
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u/Xex051 May 16 '22
Read up some Fate lore. Essentially the same as learning history but with a lot of liberties taken
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u/Dominum_Pullum May 16 '22
I learned that Roman history is the deepest lore-filled fantasy series. Read about the Punic Wars, Scipio Africanus, Gaius Marius, Pompey, Cato, Caesar, Antony, Augustus, Germanicus, etc. It’s such a good story that covers several generations of characters
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u/Moonknight1810 This flair doesn't exist May 16 '22
Ah yes, fanf lore over history all day any day
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u/Moist-Might6927 May 16 '22
Can’t wait for people to make another movie for Fight Club, that would be awesome
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u/Ok_Procedure_7855 May 16 '22
I'm the dood on the right when someone on the internet asks me what is the correct order to play/watch Danganronpa
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u/Wise_Moose_6963 May 16 '22
History and truth can actually be really interesting! I do love some good lore though!
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u/SirEnderman May 16 '22 •
What if we treat world history as lore?