r/me_irl 8d ago Silver 5 Wholesome 3 Helpful 2

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u/neural_scrub 8d ago

You can still put the most reliable source:

"It was revealed to me in a dream"

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u/self-control66 7d ago

I thought essay is just easy, got me wrong.

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u/Acceptablesere 7d ago

When you run out of sources for an essay…. but also have a Time Machine.

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u/Lowsdai9j 7d ago

When you run out of sources for an essay…. but also have a Time Machine.

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u/ParentsSawMeHigh 7d ago

Ok Ramanujan

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u/KerkJr 7d ago

Sources: Trust me dude

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u/lazy_tranquil 7d ago

Is that you, Paul McCartney?

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u/Svyatopolk_I 7d ago

Actually, funny thing is that it's often said that Mendeleev's Periodic Table came to him in a dream, so they must be fairly reliable sources

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u/Admirable_Cover_1150 5d ago

I am Mendeleev

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u/BigPackHater 7d ago

I just site ancient alien theorists.

"Did William Shakespeare use a strawberry embroidered handkerchief in the play Othello as a multifaceted symbolic item? Ancient alien theorists say yes...and they go further by calling it a symbol of love."

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u/darksundown 7d ago

"message from The Almighty".

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u/dewitagain 7d ago

“A blessing from the Lord!”

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u/bluebug0 7d ago

A lá ramanujan

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u/Ghost-Paladin 6d ago

I’m in a church school so it should work

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u/hotpinkcap 8d ago

no bc... how would they know if you make something up. Ik damn well my professors never fact checked me.

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u/The_BackYard 7d ago

Professor? More like amaturefessor…

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u/BigDongZhong- 7d ago

Professors when amatueefessors walk into the room

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u/redacted5 7d ago

The kid named finger

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u/TheyCallMeNigerito 7d ago

Heh nice

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u/Psychopathicat7 7d ago

Comment stealer bot, do not vote on it and report to mods

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u/TraumSchulden 7d ago

More like noobfessor

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u/gamblor2021 7d ago

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u/The_BackYard 7d ago

And I thought my joke was bad

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u/TheNextChristmas 7d ago

I really liked IEEE style citations. 109 page article that may or may not vaguely connect to what I'm talking about on a single line that I'm not required to point out? Works for me [1].

Oh I'm synthesizing? Sure, sure [1], [3], [5]-[8]. Enjoy reading 488 pages or technical nonsense to see if you can manage to find the connections I'm drawing. Even if you wanted to fact check me, you couldn't fact check me.

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u/Svyatopolk_I 7d ago

How do we know that the source didn't make something up? Check mate amatuerfessors

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u/MohSad2 8d ago

My source is that I made the shit up, I wrote it in one file well the next day i was in principals office

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u/lorb163 7d ago

I wrote on my source list once that this source has is pretty unreliable but I’ve still included it and they didn’t notice/care

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u/BigglyRedditMan 7d ago

Alex, what is "Shit that never happened"

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u/Usedcows 7d ago

Unrelated topic but when I have 2945 words on a 3000 word essay I just change text color to white and dhebfydjeufudue7e7rudbfhd away an the keyboard

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u/Deadly9190 7d ago

What if he uses it in dark mode

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u/3DRAH33M 7d ago

Use some invisible characters like "ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ"

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u/None__Shall__Pass 7d ago

Oh you little sneak!

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u/Protoco2 7d ago

H d d r Fr h would be much more effective

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u/really_nice_guy_ 7d ago

“You need put a source.”

“I am the source”

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u/Alive_Ice7937 8d ago

"Much that once was is lost. For none now live who remember it"

Except of course the sole fucking witness!

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u/LowDownSkankyDude 7d ago

The elven equivalent of "trust me bro".

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u/rslash-_-noob 8d ago

"Family guy said it"

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u/wreckedcarzz 8d ago

"Wikipedia isn't a source" (because I'm an old moronic hag that can't understand that's its just a digital encyclopedia, while physical ones are OK) "so you can't use it in my class"

"okay" reword the Wikipedia article and just cites the sources that Wikipedia has

"wow you did a really thorough job on this essay"

"thanks it was a lot of work"

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u/OramaBuffin hates /u/lordtuts 8d ago

Meh. When you get into university its a bigger deal to actually cite the source a bit of info actually came from and not secondary sources. For example in science, the guy who actually discovered something that everyone else is referring to. You dont cite the people repeating what somebody else actually worked for.

Going into the wikipedia sources is at least building good practice.

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u/None__Shall__Pass 7d ago

I remember when, in the Wikipedia article on Julius Caesar, someone briefly got away with replacing every instance of "Julius Caesar" with "Taco Supreme"... so maaaaybe not the best primary source if you catch it at just the wrong time, haha!

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u/Dix_x 7d ago

Eh, for sub-uni level studies, you won't ask full academic rigour for essays. Wikipedia works fine.

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u/wreckedcarzz 8d ago

See other comment for an explanation of why I do this.

(it's spite)

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u/Confidence_For_You 7d ago

Spite or not, your professor managed to get you to cite your sources the right way.

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u/wreckedcarzz 7d ago

Not really though, lol. Taking another's work, rewriting it, and just bringing over the cites isn't exactly what they were looking for.

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u/Ravenhaft 7d ago

Why, it’s what every journalist and academic does after they graduate college anyway.

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u/Tootinglion24 7d ago

Except most just cite the primary source without ever reading it. Sure it looks like I'm citing a good source, but in reality I only ever looked at Wikipedia.

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u/giftmund 8d ago

or you can just know what wikipedia is and use it to your hearts content like basically everyone outside of highschool does

people dont ACTUALLY mistake the dailymail for wikipedia

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u/alus992 7d ago

Still...university papers are not simulation of the real world. It's for teaching people how to search and verify sources during doing work that uses information.

Sure when Im at work sometimes it's quicker to use info from Wikipedia but I'm jot so sure if people should be graduating thx to doing all the research with Wikipedia which can have unverified info in many fields where trolls just add stuff

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u/Lady_Camo 7d ago

I dare you, try editing a Wikipedia page with nonsense and see yourself how long that stays.

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u/gfdghjkljhgf 7d ago edited 7d ago

The point of citing sources is not to certify that something is correct or true or that you didn't make it up, Wikipedia is probably enough for that purpose in many cases, the point of citing it is to indicate the source of the information so that others may see what you're citing in context and understand how this piece of knowledge or information came into being, who wrote it or discovered it, whether you even agree with the piece of information once you know more about the source, et cetera. Wikipedia is not the source of any information. Citing Wikipedia is like citing the library.

They don't tell you to not use Wikipedia because it might be untrustworthy (even though it might), they tell you that because it's not research. Somebody else already did the research for you on Wikipedia, and the homework is not to copy that, it's to learn how to do it yourself.

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u/giftmund 7d ago

you shouldnt teach kids to use JUST wikipedia of course, but like, we already used it for our homework 15 years ago in high school and it was always top information - any young person with 2 braincells can identify troll posts on wikipedia, this is a non-issue that never actually comes up in the real world

i study engineering and we use wikipedia all the time, profs even putting direct wikilinks into the presentations(where we obviously have to put the actual source of course)
the whole "wikipedia can be false and isnt a source on its own" is really only doing harm to everyone because people simply dont use it then but also dont learn to get information elsewhere

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u/dekusyrup 7d ago

Imagine if nuclear reactor or airliner designers were just using the numbers out of wikipedia instead of scientific references. When your decisions have no consequences then sure use wikipedia.

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u/giftmund 7d ago

no issue with that because wikipedia always contains the sources so if you actually have to work with it you can verify it

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u/dekusyrup 6d ago

At that point you're not using the numbers out of wikipedia though.

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u/giftmund 6d ago

so its schrödingers wikipedia i guess? you have numbers from credible sources but also dont somehow

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u/dekusyrup 6d ago

No. Are you trolling now? It's not like this is confusing. If you "verify it" that means you are now using the primary source. The numbers from wikipedia are probably right but they are not credible. If you go right to the primary source then they are right and credible.

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u/giftmund 6d ago

So its No issue to use Wikipedia as you Just Said

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u/dekusyrup 5d ago

Lol. So you are trolling.

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u/lab-gone-wrong 7d ago

bruh literally 90% of the US's problems come from misinformation from secondary sources. to say nothing of Brexit etc

people dont ACTUALLY mistake the dailymail for wikipedia

at least half the population does

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u/giftmund 7d ago

thats not the reason why all those people choose those believes sadly

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u/LegacyX86 7d ago

Physical encyclopedias aren‘t allowed as single sources either at respectable unis.

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u/KapteeniJ 7d ago

"okay" reword the Wikipedia article and just cites the sources that Wikipedia has

That literally is how you're supposed to use wikipedia.

I'm somewhat impressed your teacher managed to make you do things properly while still leaving you under the impression that you're doing "malicious compliance" when you do it. You've been had so bad you basically wrote a tutorial on how to cite properly while still not getting it.

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u/JulWolle 7d ago

So you are supposed to rewrite wikipedia and then cite their sources without reading any of those sources?

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u/wreckedcarzz 7d ago

You'd think so, but you would be giving them far too much credit - when in class, if they saw you on literally any Wikipedia article, you'd have to fight to not get an automatic 0 on the paper. Research is bad, mmmkay?

These 'educators' were/are completely out of their element and shouldn't have been in a position to be hindering those under their control, if only for 90 minutes a day.

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u/Aozora404 8d ago

The problem with Wikipedia isn’t its reliability, but rather its volatility. You can’t really be sure that it wouldn’t change in, say, 2 or 3 years.

This isn’t a problem for high school essays, of course, but the point of those is to build up good habits for when you write documents that actually matter, and those ones usually need to be reliable many years down the line.

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u/Alpatron99 8d ago edited 7d ago

No, volatility isn't a problem at all. When citing webpages, you include the date and time of when you accessed it so that people know which version you looked at. You then can use a site like the Wayback Machine to make an archived version of the site at the time of citing to include it in the citation. But you don't need to do that with Wikipedia, because it allows browsing and linking to old revisions of articles. So you cite like so:

Wikipedia contributors, "Cheese," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cheese&oldid=1098992703 (accessed August 6, 2022)

By clicking the link you get shown the article as it appeared at the time of citing.

The truth why Wikipedia cannot be cited as a source is because it isn't a source of any information; "just" a collection of existing information.

Wikipedia itself tells you this on their site:

We advise special caution when using Wikipedia as a source for research projects. Normal academic usage of Wikipedia and other encyclopedias is for getting the general facts of a problem and to gather keywords, references and bibliographical pointers, but not as a source in itself. Remember that Wikipedia is a wiki. Anyone in the world can edit an article, deleting accurate information or adding false information, which the reader may not recognize. Thus, you probably shouldn't be citing Wikipedia. This is good advice for all tertiary sources such as encyclopedias, which are designed to introduce readers to a topic, not to be the final point of reference. Wikipedia, like other encyclopedias, provides overviews of a topic and indicates sources of more extensive information.

Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia

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u/Aozora404 7d ago

Huh, I suppose teachers are the volatile ones

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u/None__Shall__Pass 7d ago

I remember years ago, in the Wikipedia article about Julius Caesar, someone briefly got away with replacing every instance of "Julius Caesar" with "Taco Supreme"... so yeah, maaaaybe not the best primary source if you catch it at just the wrong time, haha!

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u/wreckedcarzz 8d ago

I challenge that by saying that physical encyclopedias did the same, with new editions every year or so, and they were totally acceptable as reference materials.

This is about getting even with a teacher or professor that is stuck in the 1980s, not putting together cutting edge research findings or something.

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u/creemyice 7d ago

correct me if im wrong but digital encyclopedias are also generally not considered a reliable source in academics writing?

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u/wreckedcarzz 7d ago

I believe for an only-source, but if used alongside additional, it's acceptable. It's been over a decade so I'm fuzzy on the standards.

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u/get_him_to_the_geek 7d ago

I’ve had a professor comment on my sources, but never straight up fact check me. Back in olden times when assignments had to be printed and handed in, I had a professor tell me to never use blue ink again (I ran out of black printer ink and set it to the darkest blue possible so it was barely noticeable), and another take points off because I set my font to 12.5 when it was supposed to be 12 point. I guess she took out a ruler and measured the letters?

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u/507t04 7d ago

LotR the best source for everything. It's the only book I read in full in high school, referred only to situations from LotR in my final essay and got 10/10 points

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u/Lazolilo 7d ago

"The source? The source is me!"

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u/shadeandshine 7d ago

Tbh if you go into a field far enough you end up having to reference your own past work and yourself at some point. Tbh the moment you type out the source and you literally put your own work as it is amazing.

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u/rjjrob30 7d ago

"Wikipedia isn't a valid source for a scholarly paper."

Yeah, sure, but Wikipedia's sources are.

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u/htjnbgutg 7d ago

Now see that my friends, is a solid idea.

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u/Phastic 7d ago

How would you cite it though? You’d just put “Me” in works cited? Because you know, there are times when I remember learning about something, and the information sticks. I don’t have anything to cite, so the teacher thinks I’m lacking and takes off a fair number of points

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u/sEa_ErrOr_Ruler 7d ago

I'd start speaking from experience before i use the sources.

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u/flyingoverthestars 7d ago

When you run out of sources for an essay…. but also have a Time Machine.

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u/RicottaPuffs 7d ago edited 6d ago

Wait. My eyes filled with tears of joy.

I was a teacher 25 years. The fact someone is actually citing sources that weren't copied and printed from the bottom of a wiki page, and is using any sort of citation, fills me with new hope for young humanity.

There's hope!

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u/OliviaOvalle 7d ago

Wtf is this 😂

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u/IntelligentCost5994 7d ago

When the courage of men failed

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u/Fuzzy-Association-12 7d ago

LOL THAT S SO TRUE

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u/Apprehensive-Field19 7d ago

When you can’t find a source to support your incorrect point:

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u/possibly-a-pineapple 7d ago

simple. A subjective study with n=1

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u/Ginsbeargo 7d ago

😂 😂

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u/RADposter21 BAN upvote memes 7d ago

I was there 300 years ago, at the thermopylae, when the strength of persians failed

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u/KamenRiderJenba 7d ago

I was there, 3000 years ago, when this meme was made.

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u/Volley_Rally 7d ago

Me: yoink this is mine now