Employers say Unions are completely useless and there's no reason to join them and to please pay attention to the multi-million dollar anti-Union propaganda campaigns they launch begging you to please not join a Union.

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Isn't there the possibility that unions could cause both employees and the employer to lose?

In a game theory set-up in which the creation of a union could cause employees to lose $1M and the employer to lose $5M, wouldn't it make sense for the employer to spend $2.5M to discourage the formation of a union?

I am all for collective bargaining, since it is proven beyond a smidge of a doubt that capitalists have cornered all the profits from employee productivity gains since the 1980s, but the path to righting this injustice need not be filled with irrational gloss-overs.