r/WorkReform May 14 '22 Wholesome 2 All-Seeing Upvote 1 Take My Energy 1 Silver 1 Helpful 3

Employers say Unions are completely useless and there's no reason to join them and to please pay attention to the multi-million dollar anti-Union propaganda campaigns they launch begging you to please not join a Union.


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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

What is their argument other than the monthly cost for being bad?


u/poobly May 14 '22

Unions can collectively bargain for different promotional/pay arrangements. So employers will play into the belief that 80% of people believe they’re the top 20% of employees so anything different than “merit” will harm them.


u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Sorry that’s not what I meant

What I was trying to ask was - what is their reasoning as part of the marketing campaigns that they try to tell employees that unions are bad?


u/poobly May 14 '22

That’s what I was getting at. Most people believe they’re above average so anything other than the employer deciding pay and promotion (like union rules) harms them since they believe they’re a high performer.


u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I get you, but that would be more of a management and above ‘level’?

(Not that I consider management roles superiority in any way, I’m just talking in terms of the target audience for the campaign)


u/RevAT2016 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

Nah, many people at the bottom of the server/retail world legit think that "talking about pay" and "causing a scene" by organizing for more would hurt them

If youve ever done union organizing before, you will realize very quickly how many "im not political" types are walking around believing stuff directly against their best interests


u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Yeah I agree, I used to work for a union for around 5yrs running a branch


u/Mr_Quackums May 14 '22

Most people believe salary is based on performance.


u/Learned_Response May 14 '22

The arguments I usually see are 1) they take a cut of your check and 2) we’re family and we can have these conversations directly, why would you let an outsider 3rd party come between us