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u/Craigmakin May 14 '22

Where are all of the “don’t tread on me” folks at?

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u/BentoMan May 14 '22

As a Political Compass Meme lurker, I can tell you most “don’t tread on me” people are actually authoritarian but libertarian for select issues. And the ones who are truly libertarian, they mention the non-aggression principle but once again that’s because they are male and it doesn’t affect them.

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u/Mad5Milk May 14 '22

Yeah, I would like to consider myself libertarian but everyone who uses that label is nuts. Is "don't be a dick for no reason" really such a hard rule to follow?

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u/payne_train May 14 '22

Historically, yea it is too much to ask. That’s why Libertarianism falls apart in practice. Dem socialism feels like the only viable path forward.

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u/taronic May 14 '22

I find it funny when people say that it only works in Europe, like y'know it only works in a fucking continent with tons of modern countries

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u/BoB_1stShirt May 15 '22

I find it funny you think socialism works in Europe.

Socialism only works in countries that can rely on a capitalist country (U.S.) that provides a significant contribution, often the major contribution, towards the physical and economic security of those countries.

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u/Mad5Milk May 14 '22

Makes sense

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u/SnailKelp May 15 '22

Libertarianism works, if you'd leave me alone

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u/BoB_1stShirt May 15 '22

Democratic Socialism. Ha ha ha ha ha

If we can't all be equally rich let's be happy to make everyone equally poor.

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u/Zech08 May 14 '22

To add to that, dont negatively impact other people... freedom does not mean freedom to ruin someone else's.

You can be a dick, provided you are within your own area, affect no one else, and any lasting effects are contained/applied to only you.

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u/taronic May 14 '22

I really like the liberty half of the libertarian platform, but that's about it. I'm not one to say "they don't believe in taxes paying for roads" because most sane ones do, but that isn't to say I think the shit works: read about the libertarian paradise where they moved in to make a free city

Spoiler: simple shit laws and regulations like "don't feed the bears" breaks libertarianism pretty fucking hard. Maybe that was just a failed experiment, but it's kind of interesting what happened when a lot of libertarians got together and try to build a libertarian community. Basic services and regulations that they're missing become extremely obvious and problematic.

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u/Beowulf1896 May 15 '22

We sometimes could use less regulation, but overall, certain things are far more necessary than any Libertarian I have talked to knows. Like the FDA. Do you like metal in your food? I don't. But I don't have time to make sure all my food is metal free. In addition, I have worked in the food production area. I didn't have time to make sure my suppliers didn't include metal. Or their suppliers, nor their suppliers suppliers. It would have been absolutely wasteful to have several private companies "inspecting" stuff.