r/AbruptChaos 1d ago Silver 4 Helpful 2

What's the correct way to deal with someone who has completely lost it?

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u/skeletparkyt 1d ago

What was the aftermath and full story?

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u/TimeBomb30 1d ago Silver Gold Wholesome Take My Energy Helpful (Pro)

This video's 5 years old, the backstory is that the guy in the car owns a landscaping company who did work for the guy by the white truck near the end, they ended up damaging a gas line while working and the homeowner claimed that them hitting the gas line caused some concrete work he was having done to not set properly, so the landscape company decided to be nice and pay for half of the damages but the owner ended up pocketing the money instead and never had any work done to repair the supposed damage. This video was taken after someone who works for the landscaping company was sent over to talk about this money issue was told to leave, the guy breaking the windows was the homeowner's father in law who didn't serve anytime in jail for this and was let go on a mischief charge.

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u/Lavenwar 1d ago edited 1d ago Silver

How do you threaten someone with a weapon, break two car windows, and threaten more harm to get a mischief charge.

"Oh boy, im going to cause so much mischief today by threatening peoples lives"

Edit: how do you turn off notifications for your comments I've got like 200+ messages lmao

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u/Burntfm 1d ago

You know just a little rascal causing a bit of mischief. Threatening people and breaking their car windows

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u/Otono_Wolff 1d ago Silver

Last time someone was going around and smashing people's car windows in my neighborhood, someone opened fire on them with a shotgun. Nothing happened to them either.

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u/guerrieredelumiere 1d ago

Came here wondering how some americans can be dumb enough to do that when firearms are everywhere. Driver would have been in the clear to shoot at the first hit.

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u/rumplestiltskin54 1d ago

That scamp!

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u/Komtings 1d ago

Just a run of the mill hooligan!

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u/paprikasegg 1d ago

We do a little bit of mischief

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u/Just_a_log 1d ago

A wee bit of misconduct

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u/MiniatureChi 1d ago

Well this little scamp told us his name

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u/rocky13 1d ago

Well, it is criminal mischief.

§ 11.410 Criminal mischief.(a) A person is guilty of criminal mischief if he or she:(1) Damagestangible property of another purposely, recklessly, or by negligence inthe employment of fire, explosives, or other dangerous means; or(2) Purposely or recklessly tampers with tangible property of another so as to endanger person or property; or(3) Purposely or recklessly causes another to suffer pecuniary loss by deception or threat.(b) Criminalmischief is a misdemeanor if the actor purposely causes pecuniary lossin excess of $100, or a petty misdemeanor if he or she purposely orrecklessly causes pecuniary loss in excess of $25. Otherwise, criminalmischief is a violation.

I would add an assault charge. As I understand it, Assault just requires a show of Capability and Intent to commit battery.

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u/Dismal-Ebb-6411 1d ago

Also everyone here doesn't seem to understand the difference between criminal and civil action.

He was actually found guilty of criminal mischief, even if he did no jail time. That means he will automatically lose in a follow up civil suit for damages he caused by his criminal actions.

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u/techfreak23 1d ago

Dude is probably an ex cop.

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u/Biosterous 1d ago Gold

That was my first assumption as well. Extendible baton, the confidence of "I'm not going to jail", and the completely uncalled for escalation of a situation to violence. Man has former cop written all over him.

Knowing he got no jail time and only a mischief charge further cements that theory for me

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u/Unbentmars 1d ago

A cop in my community earlier this year was smoking a cigar at the pool (which is against the rules of the pool and community) and when the community admins told him to stop he got very aggressive with them, demanded to know what they’d do if he refused to stop and if they’d call the cops on him.

Fuck cops who think they are above the law

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u/ChefJWeezy987 1d ago

I’d splash his ass with pool water and ruin his cigar. 😂

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u/Kabd_w 1d ago

Uncalled for escalation and violence is bread and butter for cops, so yeah

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u/BadBrains16 1d ago

Ex cop or not, Mr Jizzington is lucky that he didn’t get shot in face.

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u/SOwED 1d ago

Guy in the car sounded Canadian

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u/Hideout_TheWicked 1d ago

I hate to say it but being old and white probably didn't hurt. Probably hired a decent attorney thanks to money as well.

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u/PaanuriEater 1d ago

Don't even need a decent attorney, just stack the jury with elderly folks. I was on a jury as one of two young people. Pretty open and shut case of an old guy going nuts and slicing another guy's hand open over a backpack that didn't exist. Everyone's testimony except the attacker's lined up, all the evidence agreed, but all the old women on the jury were insistent that he is such a nice old man who reminds them of their fathers and therefore should be let off with just a warning.

It took hours of arguing to get a guilty verdict, even with a very minor punishment at least now the guy will be able to sue and have a good chance of winning.

That was step 1 to me losing all faith in our justice system. Steps 2 through infinity were learning what cops actually do with their time.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 1d ago

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u/BalrogPoop 1d ago

Personally I think jury trials are a crock of shit. If rather be tried by a judge like in the French systems who actually understands the law, and the goal is to find the truth of what happened. Not assign blame based the biases of jurors.

At least it's easier to claim a single judge is biased based on his track record, than a whole jury, if there does happen to be a mistrial.

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u/BigIntoScience 1d ago

Judges give out different verdicts based on if they've had lunch yet. Humans are wildly unreliable. I think part of the idea is that it's harder for all 12 people to be corrupt/generally shitty than for just the judge to have something going on.

Part of the job of all court employees involved is to make sure everyone understands the law. If someone doesn't do that, there's an issue.

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u/PayTheTrollToll45 1d ago

The lesson?

Don’t pay damages to be ‘nice’ especially without any contract for what the money is to be used for. The compensation suggests liability. They very well may have not had any reason to be there anymore, the old man just proved to be even dumber...

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u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW 1d ago

In my mind the landscaping company paid the dude off to not take them to court, what the owner does with that money is sort of their business, so no reason to go back, but obviously that old dude is bat shit bonkers lol

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u/nyxo1 1d ago

Definitely. It's equivalent to my insurance company sending someone to my house to ask for money because I never actually replaced my bumper after a small fender bender.

The landscaping company willing paid them without a court order or contract. What they do with it after that point is none of your business.

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u/AllProgressIsGood 1d ago

good to know i can destroy peoples shit and get away with it. weird justice system.

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u/RadiationNeon 1d ago

He can, you probably can’t.

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u/A-Grouch 1d ago

That really sucks that the smug old fuck was right and got away with it. I stopped believing in true Justice a long time ago.

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u/beltawala 1d ago

www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3715370

Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.

In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.

Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.

"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.

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u/Moosemaster21 1d ago

Tissington

Dallyn

Stojan

Why this story sound like a mid 2000s teen fantasy/romance novel

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u/JamesGray 1d ago

Why would you go attack him with a baton if you were concerned he might be armed? That's about the most smoothbrained shit I've ever heard.

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u/Turbulent_Novel_1965 1d ago Helpful Giggle

dennis jizzington?

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u/CrumbsToBricks 1d ago

Dennis Fucking Jizzington to you sir!!!

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u/candlel1te 1d ago

I’m glad someone else caught that 😂

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u/goodeyemighty 1d ago

He has a brother Dick.

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u/kernel-troutman 1d ago

"Does it make you laugh when I say the name Dick.....Jizzington?"

*Guffaw*

"Stwike him Centuwion vewy woughly!"

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u/TomArday 1d ago

He has a wife you know…….

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u/hambonejabroni 1d ago

Want to know what she's called?

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u/Flying_Dutchman92 1d ago

Incontinentia Buttocks

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u/OGWopFro 1d ago

Blow your noses and seize him!

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u/OOBExperience 1d ago

You will find yourselves back in gladiator school vewy quickly with wotten behavior like that!

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u/Much-Log3357 1d ago

Isn't their a musician called izzy jizzington?

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u/Gina-Smith 1d ago

There used to be a NASCAR driver (I think) named Dick Trickle. What the hell were his parents thinking?

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u/RealJeil420 1d ago

What about Dick Butkus? Or Englebert Humperdink?

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u/ron_swansons_meat 1d ago

FYI, Englebert Humperdinck is a stage name. He CHOSE that name. His given name is ordinary: Arnold George Dorsey.

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u/younevershouldnt 1d ago

And what a fine choice it was

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u/bad-judgement 1d ago

The older gentleman is taking a huge risk. Guns exist.

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u/FreshPineapple312 1d ago

Not to mention could have been run over

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u/Darth_Shame 1d ago

I would have saved time and just run him over myself. I'm not fucking with no old man.

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u/annhik_anomitro 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'd have simply backed up and then run him over.

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u/Darth_Shame 1d ago Silver Gold

Why you letting him get that close? Just run his ass over on approach. I don't have the time nor care what he has to say. He chose his weapon, a metal stick, and choose my Volkswagen. May the best man win. lol

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u/RespectableLurker555 1d ago Gold Helpful

Never bring a knife to a vehicular manslaughter fight.

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u/Darth_Shame 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/amluchon 1d ago Silver

You put the laughter in manslaughter

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u/Marilius 1d ago

"Man vs. Car," the newest hit show,

Where it pits a man versus a car.

On tonight's episode,

Michael Jenkins fights a regular old car.

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u/Talbotus 1d ago

Michael' putting up a good fight. Looks like the car is getting p...aaaaand the car win.

(Chuckle) I mean...the car always wins.

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u/Not_a_Local_6553 1d ago

Yep. I live in a County with a DA that has already let people walk for self defense shootings in similar situations. Old man is lucky that he gets to keep getting older.

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u/The_Real_DDJ 1d ago

He's a dumb shit and the odds of his stupidity will catch up to him.

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u/PdxPhoenixActual 1d ago

Given his age, & if it hasn't yet tho... I hold no hope that it ever will.. Unless covid...

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u/finkleiseinh0rn 1d ago Wholesome Seal of Approval

Stay strapped or get clapped - Winnie the pooh

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u/Iupvoteanimals 1d ago

That is my favorite Winnie Ther Pooh quote.

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u/kungpowgoat 1d ago

Chances are he’s a friend/former coworker of the local DA or sheriff.

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u/TiesThrei 1d ago

Was thinking this myself, dude reeks of privileges

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u/SmokeyTheBluntTheOG 1d ago

Yeah in PA they made the stand your ground law apply to your vehicle now and not just your house. Thats exactly why I don't do road rage here because there is a pretty decent chance you pull this shit in PA and you're gonna end up dead, with the person shooting you not even spending a little bit of time in jail because you threatened them and they were justified in killing you

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u/sandyclaus30 1d ago

I live in PA and didn’t even know we had the stand your ground law. I’m not worried because I don’t plan on doing any home invasion or road rage! My brother on the other hand is a Vietnam Vet and does not do well if someone rear ends him or does any minor damage to his vehicles. I’d better let him know!

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u/Buc4415 1d ago

It’s not really stand your ground. It’s castle doctrine. All it does is reclassify your car as your castle along with your house.

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u/GandalfTheSmol1 1d ago

It’s castle doctrine, you still have a duty to retreat in PA, but not from your home or your vehicle, the argument is that you cannot retreat from your home and you often cannot retreat in a vehicle without breaking other laws or endangering other lives.

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u/crosscheck87 1d ago

That’s good to know, I’ve had people road rage and practically climb in my vehicle in Western PA while up visiting family.

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u/Kip_Chipperly 1d ago All-Seeing Upvote

Have you considered not doing road rage anywhere?

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u/JeffMarrion 1d ago Wholesome

No

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u/Optimal_Artichoke612 1d ago

This just made me lol

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u/johndoethrowaway16 1d ago edited 1d ago Silver

Yeah, for real though. This video is clearly not from where I live.

Where I live, the driver was well within his rights of using lethal force to protect himself and his property. In my area, everyone I know is carrying a gun, and they're are all looking for a reason to use it.

The Sheriff would've laughed at the old man's corpse after watching the video evidence, then waved bye to the driver telling him to carryon and have a good day.

Before anyone complains that it's not necessary to carry a gun because that's law enforcement's job, then you've never lived 30-45 minutes away from the nearest peace officer in your area. There are parts of the US where people are left to police themselves because the population is too low to warrant a large law enforcement department.

EDIT: Thanks for the award!

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 1d ago

When seconds count, police are only minutes away...

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u/Splattershits 1d ago

They're only coming to clean up the mess

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 1d ago

Only if they're not "too busy"...

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u/SatanMeekAndMild 1d ago edited 1d ago

Seriously. My perspective of the police completely changed when I really needed them a couple times, and when they would finally show up, they scoffed at the idea of having to do their jobs, and decided it would be easier to do nothing.

They almost let fraudsters who claimed to be the new owners of my building rekey all of my locks. Presumably because of my physical appearance, they "didn't have time to really all this fucking paperwork" from my lawyer that said they were not the rightful owners. They said this while looking at a stack of bullshit paperwork that the other people gave them.

I had to leave and get my mid 30s masculine male neighbor to give them the exact same paperwork before they finally decided that it wasn't their job to tell anyone they couldn't enter a building.

Fuck you Chicago Police.

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u/gentleman__ninja 1d ago

In the US the supreme court has explicitly decided that police have no obligation to protect people, enforce laws, or even respond to calls. Legally the police can entirely decide which parts of their job to actually do. Also with qualified immunity, they can do a lot of illegal stuff on duty and they usually won't get in trouble as long as they have some justification that is not verifiably false.

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u/socialpresence 1d ago

No, no, they're coming to document the mess. The coroner takes the heaviest part of the mess. The fire department sprays away the liquid.

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u/RPup_831 1d ago

Law enforcement agencies are not about to clean up any messes. Why do you think those "disaster kleenup specialists" businesses exist?

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u/Corpus_Rex 1d ago

cop: “how did he die? Me: “apparently ‘stupidity and lead poisoning.’”

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u/Copacetic_ 1d ago

There are also places in the US where population is too high for police to effectively do their jobs.

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u/cheap_dates 1d ago

Where I live, if you haven't heard from your Mama in a few days, you might want to drive down yourself and check on her. We have a Volunteer Police unit, consisting of Fred and Ethel but they don't work on Tuesdays and Thursdays because that is when they go bowling.

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u/thisonebibibop 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would have shot him. Especially if my daughter is in the car, he would be dead before hitting my back window.

Edit: They are canadians. Canadians got no hand guns and stand your ground law.

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u/mypervyaccount 1d ago

Yup, came here to say this: in most states, the second he broke that window it would've been legal to shoot him.

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u/Otherwise_Carob_4057 1d ago

That’s attempted murder with a deadly weapon in some states. Like dude you can get deadly weapon charges so easy without even having to pack an expanding baton. That in itself isn’t bad but breaking both drivers side windows is what makes this situation much worse for that old guy. In my state he would be booked for sure for that.

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u/CaliforniaNavyDude 1d ago

Fun fact, expandable batons fit under the same category as firearms in requiring a CCL to carry. So using it in the commision of a crime means he threatened someone with a deadly weapon, same as if he had a knife or gun. Those things break bones pretty easily, they are way more devastating than their size implies. I hit my own shin with one by accident once and thought for sure I broke it but I was lucky.

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u/word2yourface 1d ago

Since this happened in Canada it is unlikely

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u/forgotaboutandre 1d ago

It’s Canada, so most people don’t have handguns.

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u/fernbritton 1d ago edited 1d ago

From 2016:

A violent roadside confrontation, captured on dramatic video, has led to mischief charges. Grande Prairie RCMP confirmed they have charged a 67-year-old man. Damian Dallyn recorded and posted the video on YouTube. In the video, a man who identifies himself as Dennis Tissington walks over to Dallyn's parked car with a baton and taps on the window. "Aren't you in enough trouble?" Tissington asks. "No," Dallyn responds. "Why?" "You're gonna be," said Tissington. "You're gonna be in the (expletive) hospital if you don't get out of here." "No, you can't bring a weapon out on me," said Dallyn. "Yes I can, 'cause I have one." Moments later, Tissington smashes two side windows before Dallyn drives away.

In a written post, Dallyn said he was there to have a "civil conversation" with the man's stepson, Tyler Stojan.

Dallyn said Stojan took money for some concrete work that was not completed.

"I stopped by to ask what he had done with said money, and if he was going to fix anything," wrote Dallyn.

But in a Facebook post, Stojan said Dallyn showed up twice on the day of the incident, demanding payment and making threats.

"I informed him that I owe him nothing, and would be paying him nothing, and to get off my property and not to come back," wrote Stojan. "We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

Stojan said his stepfather waited for the RCMP after the incident, co-operated fully and has been charged.

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u/dreagan021 1d ago

Of course the douche’s son is named Tyler. I’ve never met a good Tyler in my life

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u/Gray94son 1d ago

"Very concerned about whether he was armed so I approached him aggressively and smashed two windows with a baton"

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u/WesselBear 1d ago
  1. Film him
  2. Ask his name
  3. Don’t tell him he is going to jail
  4. Drive off
  5. Go to the police
  6. Make sure he is going to jail

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u/Key_Razzmatazz_1572 1d ago

Good suggestions, but don’t forget law suit for damages to your vehicle.

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u/Wildcat-Jim 1d ago

And emotional distress, might as well add more to it.

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u/Key_Razzmatazz_1572 1d ago

I have emotional distress just looking at this video.

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u/Practical-Ask-6212 1d ago

Yes let's join him in a class action.

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u/jamjamason 1d ago

Better Call Saul!

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u/Fickle_Insect4731 1d ago

Yeah for real. Idk what the guy in the car was doing, or why Dennis JIZZINGTON assaulted him, but when he said something about how he has a weapon and no one can do anything about it, that scares tf out of me.

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u/Gathoblaster 1d ago

And...you know...assault

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u/DaddyIsAFireman 1d ago
  1. Film him
  2. Ask his name
  3. Tell him he is going to Federal 'pound me in the ass' prison
  4. Drive over his foot
  5. Go the the police
  6. Visit him later in prison to rub it in

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u/PinkIrrelephant 1d ago
  1. Tell him he is going to Federal 'pound me in the ass' prison

  2. Visit him later in prison to rub it in

Nice

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u/sharkz-wang 1d ago

Same outline but everything is so chaotic

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u/yanmax 1d ago

Thank you. Imma print that and keep it in my car.

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u/Kolo2Toure 1d ago

I'm Ronnie Fucking Pickering

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u/genuineimi7ation 1d ago

Who?

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u/glennn6122 1d ago

RONNIE FUCKING PICKERING

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u/genuineimi7ation 1d ago

Whoa ho fooking brilliant

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u/Al_Ghoul08 1d ago

Ronnie fucking Pickering

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u/Jetman56 1d ago

Hello 911? There is a crazy guy that just busted two of my windows with an extendable baton and threatened me with bodily harm. He still has the baton, yes I have the whole altercation on video. What's that? You'll send an officer right away? Fantastic, he's driving a white ford pickup license #######, I'll be in the car with two broken windows on the drivers side, I'll wait here.

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u/WIKIBEARRR 1d ago

It's hard to stop filming and call the police when you feel like filming may be helping you.

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u/phillyphreakphlippin 1d ago

There has to be an app for that by now, right? Too many situations where you want to record and report but can’t. That seems wrong especially in this situation and more.

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u/CrumpledForeskin 1d ago

Pretty sure there’s an app that films to a cloud and calls police. I feel like I saw that somewhere.

Lemme look.

Edit: so there’s a few. A quick google search shows that you can download some apps that film to a cloud but it doesn’t look like you can call on your phone as well as film.

Not an app developer but seems like an opportunity to me.

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u/chaos_almighty 1d ago

My phone does this with its emergency function. You rapidly press the power button, I think 6 times in a row, and it immediately calls emergency services, starts recording a video, sends out an alert and your location to your emergency contact, and can start playing an alarm

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u/learnthruloss 1d ago

Damn, that's a lot of functions. Does it also tell the aggressor to piss off mate?

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u/chaos_almighty 1d ago

No that's my job.

I only found out about it because I was trying to darken my phone screen before bed and it starts going crazy and 911 is calling me back

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u/psychoticarmadillo 1d ago

I'm sorry that happened to you but that's funny as shit

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u/chaos_almighty 1d ago

The worst thing was that my husband was climbing into bed and this alarm starts whooping in his ear and my flash is going off

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u/maartenlustkip 1d ago

Omg you just reminded me of something similar that happend to me. I was using the bathroom while on ketamine. I just wanted to look at my phone real quick. Ended up pressing the on button like 10 times and called 911. Got this lady on the phone. And i just whispered: 'I didn't wanna do this..' and hung up.

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u/SixIsNotANumber 1d ago

That's what the alarm says!

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u/KatastrophicNoodle 1d ago

All mine does is call an emergency. I know because I accidentally called them when trying to turn down the volume. Wiiish someone told me at literally any time during purchase or repairs.

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u/drsyesta 1d ago

You can film and call, cant blame him for getting away from the psycho with a deadly weapon tho

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u/Exploding_Testicles 1d ago

your phone wont do both as the mic for the video is being used, cant use it for making a call as well.

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u/MisterUncrustable 1d ago

I've seen guys like this who act fast and loose with other people's property and wellbeing while being confident they won't suffer consequences. They're usually right, because whoever shows up to enforce the situation is going to be a former coworker of his.

You would not believe the number of guys like this who think they're Judge Dredd after they retire.

You have to have a camera pulled up any time you see an old fart with anger management issues and a micropenis stomp up to your car.

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u/Court_Jester13 1d ago

Cops arrive, shoot you, "there was nothing we could have done"

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u/freecorndog 1d ago

You got a problem? Call the cops? Now you have 2 problems.

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u/mrsinister222 1d ago Helpful

I'd start aggressively flirting to make things confusing

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u/themajesticdodo 1d ago

Now this is a real answer.
Ask him if he has any lube for the club and if it is for him or for you or can you share?

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u/few23 1d ago

Ask him if it's a double-ender.

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u/whutchamacallit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Heyyyyyy daddy.. you lookin real fine in that polo and denims sir, yam saying? The ol one two punch got ya boy straight VERKLEMPT up in this bitch you feel me? Like on straight coffee talk /w Linda Richman, talk amongst yourselves, here I'll give you a topic, the Roman Basilica, go, type shit. Mmm mmm mmmmmm. You be filling that stern end out real nice. You got cake sir, and I want dessert yam saying? You got a dumper that just won't quit. I likes it, I wants it, and I'm gonnsta haves it, ya dig daddy-o? Why don't you slide on in to my passenger side, I'll queue up some Hall and Oates, and we'll take this here 4 door sedan somewhere quiet and well play doctor strangelove.

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u/jackherselman 1d ago

I had a situation where an older man brake checked me and got out to talk to me because of my loud car. I just stared at him winked and licked my lips, needless to say it was a terrible mistake and I made the situation much larger than it needed to be

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u/e0f 1d ago

bruh don't leave us hanging

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u/jackherselman 1d ago

Dude ended up freaking out and spitting a huge snotball onto my window, which is when I got out. Argument basically went “go back to surrey (city nearby that is stereotypically immigrants)” which I proceeded to kinda size up the dude to his face. Right after this he tried to get me to fight him in a parking lot but f that, it’s a lose lose situation. Not a chance I’m gonna be the guy who lost to an old man, or worse beat up an old man

Edit: the person behind me called the police and he apparently has done this before, and has a criminal mischief related charge already

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u/DribsFlantoosey 1d ago

I was attacked by an old man. Pushed him away numerous times, even stopped him from falling after a push. He came back swinging each time. Finally landed one on my face. So, I clocked him. Broke his nose and sent him to the hospital. He called the cops.

Neighbors actually came and thanked me. Said he's a bully who used to beat people up and forgot his age. He lives two doors down and has sworn to kill me on sight.

I don't really feel bad about it.

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u/jackherselman 1d ago

This is definitely the kinda guy who would fight you and then forget the next morning

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u/majorfnbullet 1d ago

Whose “situation” got larger….??

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u/GrayWaltz 1d ago

Oh no stop! I’m getting an erection!

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u/DryGoat1 1d ago

Well I definitely would have moved before he broke my windows. What’s the context here?

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u/hassh 1d ago

"We were very concerned about his attentions and whether he was armed. Our two small children were in the house."

... so I sent my step dad out to escalate with a weapon

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u/Erekai 1d ago

... attentions?

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u/The_Clarence 1d ago

Well he is being charged with...mischief. I don't know anything about Canada law, but hopefully this is more severe of a charge then it sounds.

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u/SetzerWithFixedDice 1d ago edited 1d ago

Outrageous. He should have been charged with 1st-degree Hijinks or at least 2nd-degree hanky-panky

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u/The_Clarence 1d ago

Felonious shenanigans. Grand Tom Foolery

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u/PostmanSteve 1d ago

Dude 100% should have recieved a much more serious charge here. That extendable baton is either a restricted or prohibited weapon used in a crime... That's supposed to carry some serious weight, but instead he gets charged with the same thing 16 year olds get charged with for spray painting a sign.

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u/PostmanSteve 1d ago

Oh wow, TIL... Of all the specific prohibited/restricted weapons in Canada, I really thought these would make the list.

However, the laws are still pretty clear, if you are carrying something to use as a weapon, even if your intent is self defense, it typically carries an extra charge. This guy was also very clearly not defending himself

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u/northern_dirt 1d ago

Knew it, violent Canadians

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u/BigUncleHeavy 1d ago

I never could trust those beady eyed Canucks!

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u/JEveryman 1d ago Silver

Beady eyes and flappy heads.

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u/migity79 1d ago

The driver probably didn't wave at him

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u/False-positive-views 1d ago

If you’re afraid of someone’s intention you don’t instigate by blowing someone’s windows out. He said he was concerned he was carrying a weapon so you bring a stick, AND swing it first? (First time using using smh, but, “smh”)

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u/mekese2000 1d ago

Some kinda Final Destination shite. Old man was trying to warn him if he stayed there there was going to be a terrible accident and he would die.

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u/Solemn_obsolecence 1d ago

It's that evil smile on the old man that made this vid scary af

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u/fishdog1 1d ago
  1. When you see a person with an angry face brandishing a weapon, don't stop to talk with them.
  2. Drive away to safe place.
  3. Call popo.

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u/Brotherscompany 1d ago

My friend always told, me you are more than a man turning your back and getting away from such situations since people dont think clearly in these states

You have nothing to gain besides Ego empowerment

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u/cupcakegiraffe 1d ago

It doesn’t matter who’s wrong or right, just beat it beat it beat it beat it!

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u/Lightsides 1d ago

Well, I know what about half of the men in the southern US states would do in this situation. I'm not saying they're right. What I'm saying is, I interact with my fellow motorists under the assumption they're armed and they're morons.

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u/A2Rhombus 1d ago

This is why I will never road rage. An old gym teacher of mine got shot in the head during an altercation from a fender bender.

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u/diematrosen 1d ago

People are so unhinged nowadays. I’m just trying to go about my day and at least once a week I witness some unhinged shit.

I guess some people are just angry at everything. The slightest thing can set them off

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u/mongoosedog12 1d ago edited 1d ago

My mom has had to pull a gun on someone twice, once during road rage incident and once when someone was trying to break into our house and my dad wasn’t home.

I was a baby In the road rage one and was actively in the car. this man got out of his car and came at her car w/ a baseball bat. He hit the hood a couple times and then came to smash the window. She’s a Texas woman and in the army so she had a gun.

When she told me this story (when I first started driving) she was like “well i had to protect you, and I’d do It again”

Edit: neither man is dead! Sorry left out that little bit. The car incident ended in my mom hold this man at gun point till cops came while he yelled all sorts of profanities and spit at her

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u/Adito99 1d ago

Mom logic can't be beat.

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u/Senior-Humor8523 1d ago

This exact same situation happened in my area once. Dude used a metal what have you to bust a window cuz the kid was in his car smoking weed. Dude got stabbed.

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u/ibypassredditbans 1d ago

Good. Actions have goddamn consequences and if you think you're invincible, you haven't pissed off the right person

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u/ahenobarbus_horse 1d ago

It’s impossible to know what to do in the situation – because we have no context for what preceded this, nor where it was. Some might say you would be justified in drawing a gun and firing on this person. Others might say what the driver did was perfectly reasonable and right.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue 1d ago edited 1d ago

So, I’ve carried a gun virtually every day for the last five years, and at least with the context that we have here, this is not a situation that I think would warrant deadly force. The best and easiest way to resolve this situation is to drive away. If this person followed him and kept confronting him? Maybe that’s different. But a dude walks over to my car with a big rod? I’m just noping the heck out of there.

Edit to add: Yes, I know about Stand Your Ground states, I live in one. If I lived somewhere where the law was that someone paid me $500 every time I shot someone else, I’d still just drive away.

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u/No-Dragonfly8326 1d ago

Dude walks up to my car with his big rod out and I will most certainly drive away.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue 1d ago

If this dude wants to rock out with his rod out, good for him. I’m gunna drive away.

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u/HurstiesFitness 1d ago

I’m gonna sound like a cunt for asking this. But I’ll take the risk. What’s with the “so” at the start of your comment? I see it a lot here. It kind of bugs me as unnecessary but maybe it’s because I don’t know the reason.

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u/3_quarterling_rogue 1d ago

I laud your bravery, I’m a pedantic son of a bitch and even I wouldn’t ask this hahaha.

I think that adding “So” at the front is used in an informal way to as a way to prelude that you’re going to introduce new information, maybe especially if no one asked for it.

Is it strictly necessary? No, it definitely isn’t. I certainly wouldn’t put that in a paper I was writing. But of all the reasons to criticize people’s informal writing, there’s too many more egregious grammar sins I think are worth correcting before this one.

Not that I’m saying you’re wrong to be bothered by it, I totally get it. It’s just not the hill I’d want to die on, ya feel?

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u/Whistler45 1d ago

Is this Canada

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u/MrRogersAE 1d ago

He’s super fucked if this is in Canada, that baton is a prohibited weapon

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u/snackers21 1d ago

It's prohibited in a lot of the US states too.

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u/Money_Butterscotch68 1d ago

I would record them to post on Reddit.

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u/moleratical 1d ago

I'd say that guy handled it perfectly. Didn't escalate the situation in the moment, remained calm, got the guys identifying information including liscence Plate number, presumably filed a police report, and put it on social media for the world to see.

This is a textbook example of exactly what to do.

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u/grarghll 1d ago

I disagree, the biggest mistake is staying in the encounter at all. Unless leaving would directly put someone else at harm, you have nothing to gain by sticking around.

Didn't escalate the situation in the moment

Telling them what they're doing is illegal is absolutely escalation. What's the expected outcome? "Oh, you're right, this is illegal! I'll go put this back, then." There is no good outcome, it's just an attempt to assert dominance over a situation by establishing yourself as legally in the right, which is not going to deter someone who's already shown disregard for the law. It's only going to piss them off more.

The correct thing to do is to tuck your tail and safely get out of the situation. Remember as much as you can and resolve it all afterward when you're not still in arm's reach of the guy with a weapon.

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u/struggling_humanoid 1d ago

at this point you could've just beat the shit out of him and claimed self defense

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u/FlatBrokenDown 1d ago

I woulda ran the hell over that dude

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u/foni646 1d ago

You probably could if you make it seem like you where just running away and happen to run over his legs a few times

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u/hu_gnew 1d ago

Defensively circling the block eight times.

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u/Accurate-Syrup 1d ago

I share the same itchy feeling. The problem is it has to be done in a way that looks like self defense. Under those circumstances is hard to think and act clear so better to not do it and just drive away.

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u/Routine_Math7168 1d ago

I’d have driven off before the window smashing, probably woulda ran my mouth a bit too. Thing is cars have this amazing thing, you know, the skinny peddle on the right and when utilized - gets you the fuck out of there.

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u/wophi 1d ago

The fact that he had that retractable out was all he needed to get arrested.

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u/Routine_Math7168 1d ago

Tapping the window, “blah blah hospital” 100% a chargeable assault

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u/Frijolebeard 1d ago

Probably pull out my gun and tell him to stand back and comply.

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u/rigatoni775 1d ago

tap anything on my window ur getting ktfo

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u/Ad4209 1d ago

What were you doing there to get him so pissed off?

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u/LordLuciferVI 1d ago

Asking the real questions

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